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 Submitted by Chris O'Neill
+.	Due to the stigma around mental illness, especially so in the nineteenth century, are the letters/accounts of family members misleading at illustrating the symptoms and experiences of patients as they often minimized the true extent of a relative’s mental health?  Tomes acknowledges this partially in chapter 3 but more so as a reluctance to admit a family member to an asylum.
+.	Kirkbride is described as a diplomatic man who was able to keep the façade of the asylum up to par with patrons, why did he not employ more staff to make up for overcrowding?  With one of the patients being worth over $1,000,000 this seems like a plausible solution.
+-Janis Shurtleff
 . Do you think writing the history of a mental hospital is hard because there isn't much written on it or does the political discourse have more to do with it?
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 Submitted by Carson Berrier (I pledge…)
+) Tomes mentions in chapter 3 how some of Kirkbride’s patients were illiterate and lacked the understanding to be able to describe their own conditions or understand insanity. Do you think this could have had a lasting impact on the understanding of insanity? If the lower-class patients who were often seen as vagrants or lowly were able to accurately describe their conditions, would the view on those patients have shifted? Could they have been viewed in the same light as the wealthier patients? Or would the doctors have still only gone off their own theories and not listened to the patients own descriptions?
+) Tomes outlines the events that would occur for a patient before they were admitted to Kirkbride’s asylum. These events included reasoning, meetings with a family doctor, neurologist (occasionally), spa/health resort, private institutions and then finally admittance into Kirkbride’s asylum. However, Tomes mentions most of the patients who went through those steps were wealthier and wanted to avoid the stigma of the asylum. What might the steps for lower class and lower income patients look like?
+Submitted by Mallory Karnei (I pledge...)