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| I think My Darling Clementine works as a secondary source because it tells the story of real historical figures like Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday while also interpreting those events for audiences in 1946. The movie gets some important facts right, such as the conflict between the Earps and the Clantons and the setting of Tombstone leading up to the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral. However, it also changes parts of the story and adds drama to make it more entertaining. Overall, the film helps us learn about the history of the Old West, but it also shows how people in the 1940s viewed and romanticized that period. My Darling Clementine is based on real figures and events but includes significant fictionalization. -Alyssa G. | I think My Darling Clementine works as a secondary source because it tells the story of real historical figures like Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday while also interpreting those events for audiences in 1946. The movie gets some important facts right, such as the conflict between the Earps and the Clantons and the setting of Tombstone leading up to the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral. However, it also changes parts of the story and adds drama to make it more entertaining. Overall, the film helps us learn about the history of the Old West, but it also shows how people in the 1940s viewed and romanticized that period. My Darling Clementine is based on real figures and events but includes significant fictionalization. -Alyssa G. | ||
| + | My Darling Clementine does a good job of reflecting the themes of the frontier era - the quest for civilization, | ||
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| There are numerous problems with historical accuracy within My Darling Clementine. For example, Doc Holliday in the film is a surgeon as opposed to a dentist as he was in real life. This small change makes it possible and more tragic for Holliday to do surgery on the dying Chihuahua. Chihuahua is also of course a made up woman as opposed to Holliday’s real life relationships with Kate Elder (or Fisher) and Mattie Blaylock. Within the actual gunfight at the OK Corral, the father of the Corrals was not there at all during the fight. However, he is a central person in the Corral family and the gunfight in the movie. —Aaliyah A. | There are numerous problems with historical accuracy within My Darling Clementine. For example, Doc Holliday in the film is a surgeon as opposed to a dentist as he was in real life. This small change makes it possible and more tragic for Holliday to do surgery on the dying Chihuahua. Chihuahua is also of course a made up woman as opposed to Holliday’s real life relationships with Kate Elder (or Fisher) and Mattie Blaylock. Within the actual gunfight at the OK Corral, the father of the Corrals was not there at all during the fight. However, he is a central person in the Corral family and the gunfight in the movie. —Aaliyah A. | ||
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| + | My Darling Clementine uses the term corral literally, as the film depicts the O.K. Corral shootout within a corral, with Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday, and the Clanton brothers shooting at one another behind a throng of horses and an array of fencing for cover. In actuality, the shootout took place within a vacant lot near a saloon-like building dubbed the “O.K. Corral.” Furthermore, | ||
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| + | There are quite a few inaccurates in the film. The inciting murder of James Earp did not help in real life nor was he a naive teenaged boy, Nor did Doc Holiday die bravely at the O.K Corral, in fact he died of tuberculosis years later. Wyatt Earp was not as moral in real life as he was in the film. He was an opportunist who gambled and pimped to make extra money. The two main women Chihuahua and Clementine did not exist in real life. Instead they are both based on Big Nose Kate and Josephine Sarah Marcus, and even then it was very loosely based. | ||
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| ======How does the film’s overall interpretation(s) deviate from scholarly historical sources (as presented in class)? | ======How does the film’s overall interpretation(s) deviate from scholarly historical sources (as presented in class)? | ||
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| My Darling Clementine was released in 1946, following the US involvement in World War II. The nationalism and feeling of American exceptionalism is reflected in the movie in the prideful display of the American frontier. An extravagant and almost mythical version of the events that occurred in the West play into the contemporary feelings of grandeur in several ways. The way that the Earps, self-made men, are able to overcome tragedy with justice would have been compelling at the time when the majority associated American identity with success and progress. | My Darling Clementine was released in 1946, following the US involvement in World War II. The nationalism and feeling of American exceptionalism is reflected in the movie in the prideful display of the American frontier. An extravagant and almost mythical version of the events that occurred in the West play into the contemporary feelings of grandeur in several ways. The way that the Earps, self-made men, are able to overcome tragedy with justice would have been compelling at the time when the majority associated American identity with success and progress. | ||
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| + | The impression that I got from this film, compared to others we’ve watched, was that it was created purely for entertainment. There was not an underlying message about politics and history, nor were there major historical events occurring. While that can be argued for many other films, the setting and characters feel different. It was just following a guy during a period of his life. This leaves more room for producer interpretation and the era it was created to shine through. Within the first 10 minutes, a racist stereotype of Native Americans was portrayed. This was treated casually. From my limited knowledge of Native American history, sentiments towards these communities did not change much in a positive manner between the setting and the time it was created. Gender dynamics were extremely apparent. The two relevant female characters were both in love with Doc and in competition over the worst man I’ve ever seen. -Katie D. | ||
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| Analyzing My Darling Clementine (1946) as a primary source requires looking beyond its 1880s Western setting to examine the social assumptions, | Analyzing My Darling Clementine (1946) as a primary source requires looking beyond its 1880s Western setting to examine the social assumptions, | ||
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| + | As stated previously a lot of My Darling Clementine reflects the idea of “The Old West” in Hollywood. The lives of the “cowboys” are glamorized, being brave and lawful, getting into gunfights, and emerging victorious. The two main women in the film reflect the two perceived ideas of women in the west. Clementine is the “moral” woman. She is quiet , soft spoken and civilized. She is refined and overall the “good” woman. | ||
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| + | My Darling Clementine is a post-World War II film and in many ways, it is a prism through which historians can view the time in which it was made. Wyatt Earp’s character, for example, can be seen as an allegory of America’s role in World War II - a person who gains in strength and character throughout the film, eventually taking down a gang of bad guys with his two allies. At the end of the movie, after bringing justice to Tombstone, Earp leaves, but promises to come back, reflecting the question for many Americans and the wider world of whether the United States would stick around in its new post-war global role or retrench into isolationism. The film works as a primary source about the time in which it was made because it reflects many of the sentiments and cultural paradigms of the post-war period. | ||
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| + | I think My Darling Clementine works as a primary source because it shows how people in the 1940s viewed and remembered the American West. Even though the movie takes place in the 1880s, it reflects the values and ideas of the time it was made in 1946. The movie makes the West seem like a place where good people bring law and order to a world full of violence and chaos. So, I think it tells us more about how people wanted to remember the Old West than what had actually happened at the times. —Cait Edwards. | ||
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| I care about the film My Darling Clementine because it really gives you a vision of what early western America was like and how people reacted to different circumstances. I liked how the film's name was after a woman who didn't play that big of a role in the film. Clementine was obviously a part of Doc holiday past but she somehow changed sometime in his spirit. All the town drama and gun tassels led down to the main character, Wyatt Erp, being enamored with Clemintine to close out the film. I think this was a significant point because even though most of the film was fighting scenes and rough, Clementine reminded them all just how delicate life can be. This version of history in the film is a lot like some of the old western shows that we have now. My Darling Clemintine is significant because it set an example for future western America films. -- Autumn Morris | I care about the film My Darling Clementine because it really gives you a vision of what early western America was like and how people reacted to different circumstances. I liked how the film's name was after a woman who didn't play that big of a role in the film. Clementine was obviously a part of Doc holiday past but she somehow changed sometime in his spirit. All the town drama and gun tassels led down to the main character, Wyatt Erp, being enamored with Clemintine to close out the film. I think this was a significant point because even though most of the film was fighting scenes and rough, Clementine reminded them all just how delicate life can be. This version of history in the film is a lot like some of the old western shows that we have now. My Darling Clemintine is significant because it set an example for future western America films. -- Autumn Morris | ||
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| + | My Darling Clementine is one iteration of Wyatt Earp's “story” among many others. This film does not address a major event in American history, and does not have the same historical rewriting effect other films we’ve watched do. This film was directed by one of the most famous American movie creators of all time, which does lend it more popularity than others. I do not believe that this single film matters much, but this film existing alongside the greater Western genre does matter. Many people get their first impressions about American expansion westward from media depicting stories like this film does. While school does teach about manifest destiny and all that, the day to day life of people is lost. This is filled in by Western media. Stereotypes of Native Americans and other groups that American citizens came into contact with are rampant among this genre, and shape public attitudes towards these groups where they continue to reside today. -Katie D. | ||
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| + | I think we should care about My Darling Clementine because movies like this can change how people picture historical figures and events. The movie makes Wyatt Earp look like this ‘perfect hero’ who came into town to bring ‘peace and justice’, even though in reality he was not exactly like that. I think Hollywood wanted its audiences to have someone to root for, so they turned the real people and events into a more entertaining Western story. Even if the movie isn’t completely historically accurate, it is still important because it shows how Hollywood helped create the American legend of the Wild West. —Cait Edwards . | ||
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