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329:question:329--week_9_questions_comments-2018 [2018/11/01 13:28] – [Comparing the reading to the movie] 76.78.226.236329:question:329--week_9_questions_comments-2018 [2018/11/02 12:56] (current) – [The movie as a primary source of its time] wroszell
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 The death of Doc Holliday in the film--which in actuality, as others have already pointed out, did not occur at OK Corral, but of consumption in 1887--can be seen as the culmination of his long-standing disregard for his own life. Not until Chihuahua dies does Holliday approach Wyatt and offer to help him fight the Clantons at the OK Corral--not until his last hope for self-redemption had been denied. What does the fulfillment of this desire to seek out death mean about how mental illness was perceived at the time in which this movie was set, or the time in which it was made? ~Will Everett The death of Doc Holliday in the film--which in actuality, as others have already pointed out, did not occur at OK Corral, but of consumption in 1887--can be seen as the culmination of his long-standing disregard for his own life. Not until Chihuahua dies does Holliday approach Wyatt and offer to help him fight the Clantons at the OK Corral--not until his last hope for self-redemption had been denied. What does the fulfillment of this desire to seek out death mean about how mental illness was perceived at the time in which this movie was set, or the time in which it was made? ~Will Everett
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 +This movie did a great a job at painting a very white version of the west . It only mentioned one minority group that followed the stereotype of drunk Indians in saloons. It made no mention of the diverse populations that were migrating out west. Where are the non-white people at? –William Roszell
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 What this movie says about the 1940's is that people wanted to be entertained and wanted to celebrate classic American heroes. Westerns were very popular at this time because, as a genre, they generally take pride in America's past and focus on what we consider to be a very exciting time and place. The Wild West is heavily romanticized on screen. -Maddie Shiflett  What this movie says about the 1940's is that people wanted to be entertained and wanted to celebrate classic American heroes. Westerns were very popular at this time because, as a genre, they generally take pride in America's past and focus on what we consider to be a very exciting time and place. The Wild West is heavily romanticized on screen. -Maddie Shiflett 
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 This movie didn't seem like it was trying to present a complex image of it's characters in the way that more modern Western movies would try to do, like the Wyatt Earp film from 1994. It reflected the time period it was made in that I think people just really wanted to see a more black and white depiction of heroes and villains in 1946. They were going to the movies to be entertained. - Sam Hartz This movie didn't seem like it was trying to present a complex image of it's characters in the way that more modern Western movies would try to do, like the Wyatt Earp film from 1994. It reflected the time period it was made in that I think people just really wanted to see a more black and white depiction of heroes and villains in 1946. They were going to the movies to be entertained. - Sam Hartz
  
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 +My Darling Clementine is a classic western that attempts to depict the definition of what a manliness in 1940’s .–William Roszell
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 The movie is simply one that says that it is historically accurate—is not—but is an awesome western film that resonates with viewers. Rather than serving as a secondary source of the gunfight at the OK corral it mimics Gone with the Wind in that it shows a romanticized version of its setting—in Clementine’s case, the West. -Lake Wiley The movie is simply one that says that it is historically accurate—is not—but is an awesome western film that resonates with viewers. Rather than serving as a secondary source of the gunfight at the OK corral it mimics Gone with the Wind in that it shows a romanticized version of its setting—in Clementine’s case, the West. -Lake Wiley
  
-One of the aspects of this film that shows that it is a source of its time is its treatment of women. One way in which I like to look at the treatment of women in films is through the Bechdel test. For a film to pass the Bechdel test it must have three things: 1) two named female characters 2) these characters must have a conversation with one another 3) the conversation needs to be about something other than a man. Not surprisingly, this 1946 film does not pass this test. Yes, there are two named women. Yes, they do have a conversation. But their conversation lies in the subject that Chihuahua wanted Clementine to leave because Clementine threatened Chihuahua’s future with Doc Holliday. In this film, women are portrayed as love interests for the main heroes and only that. – Carolyn Stough+One of the aspects of this film that shows that it is a source of its time is its treatment of women. One way in which I like to look at the treatment of women in films is through the Bechdel test. For a film to pass the Bechdel test it must have three things: 1) two named female characters 2) these characters must have a conversation with one another 3) the conversation needs to be about something other than a man. Not surprisingly, this 1946 film does not pass this test. **Yes, there are two named women. Yes, they do have a conversation. But their conversation lies in the subject that Chihuahua wanted Clementine to leave because Clementine threatened Chihuahua’s future with Doc Holliday. In this film, women are portrayed as love interests for the main heroes and only that.** – Carolyn Stough
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