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| Glory is one of the more accurate films we’ve seen so far this semester. You can tell the filmmakers spent time going through Shaw's letters of his time leading the regiment. They also did a good job at portraying the unequal treatment and inequality many black soldiers faced. While some of that was dramatized, such as Montgomery’s harsh and racist ideology that seemed over dramatic compared to his real life counterpart, they have to cram 4 years of civil war opinions and ideations into a story about one regiment’s select months of service. As someone else pointed out, a lot of Shaw's soldiers weren’t actually formerly enslaved, but that wasn’t the case for all black regiments and the filmmakers did what they could to try and portray the attitudes and the actuality of that time. I also like that they depicted events as they happened. The battle at Fort Wagner wasn’t a victory and heavy losses were felt on the Union side, especially within the 54th. Shaw was killed and was in fact buried in a mass grave like they depicted. While most officers were to be honored, on either side, because of who Shaw was an officer to, deemed him as not honorable and unworthy in the eyes of the Confederate Soldiers.- Emma Galvin | Glory is one of the more accurate films we’ve seen so far this semester. You can tell the filmmakers spent time going through Shaw's letters of his time leading the regiment. They also did a good job at portraying the unequal treatment and inequality many black soldiers faced. While some of that was dramatized, such as Montgomery’s harsh and racist ideology that seemed over dramatic compared to his real life counterpart, they have to cram 4 years of civil war opinions and ideations into a story about one regiment’s select months of service. As someone else pointed out, a lot of Shaw's soldiers weren’t actually formerly enslaved, but that wasn’t the case for all black regiments and the filmmakers did what they could to try and portray the attitudes and the actuality of that time. I also like that they depicted events as they happened. The battle at Fort Wagner wasn’t a victory and heavy losses were felt on the Union side, especially within the 54th. Shaw was killed and was in fact buried in a mass grave like they depicted. While most officers were to be honored, on either side, because of who Shaw was an officer to, deemed him as not honorable and unworthy in the eyes of the Confederate Soldiers.- Emma Galvin |
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| As others have said, this film depicts the frequent poor treatment of Black soldiers, but specifically, the film included actual racist quotes from the time period. For example, in class, Dr. McClurken read a quote that I recognized when I heard it repeated verbatim in the film, which I'd rather not repeat again here, but the fact that they included it in dialogue shows that the filmmakers did their research and looked at primary sources in order to set an historically accurate atmosphere. It also touched on the fact that these soldiers were paid less than their white counterparts ($10 per month instead of $13) due to discrimination. -Jennifer | As others have said, this film depicts the frequent poor treatment of Black soldiers, but specifically, the film included actual racist quotes from the time period. For example, in class, Dr. McClurken read a quote that I recognized when I heard it repeated verbatim in the film, which I'd rather not repeat again here, but the fact that they included it in dialogue shows that the filmmakers did their research and looked at primary sources in order to set an historically accurate atmosphere. It also touched on the fact that these soldiers were paid less than their white counterparts ($10 per month instead of $13) due to discrimination. -Jennifer |
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| | Although this movie used fictional characters, it did so not to take away from the film, but to add to it's messages. It also had many historically accurate parts, and so I think this movie is a good secondary source. -Kazu Ferris |
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| Glory did an amazing job of cementing the 54th regiment’s bravery into history, but it still had its inaccuracies. One of them that I noticed was in the movie they flogged Private Trip (Denzel Washington) for the reason of them thinking he deserted. This apparently had never happened in the 54th, and was only tried once by another colonel in a different regiment, which caused his regiment to mutiny. It didn’t make much sense to me for them to add that when it never happened, especially knowing what it meant to be whipped to the black soldiers. Furthermore, most of the soldiers were depicted as runaway slaves, when in reality this was a regiment that was hand picked by Frederick Douglas made up of free African Americans. They only made one soldier seem educated from the North, while purposely making a lot of the others seem dumb. Overall, I thought the 54th’s regiments story was told pretty well, but there were a couple additions to this story that were definitely unnecessary for the makers to add. -Matt S. | Glory did an amazing job of cementing the 54th regiment’s bravery into history, but it still had its inaccuracies. One of them that I noticed was in the movie they flogged Private Trip (Denzel Washington) for the reason of them thinking he deserted. This apparently had never happened in the 54th, and was only tried once by another colonel in a different regiment, which caused his regiment to mutiny. It didn’t make much sense to me for them to add that when it never happened, especially knowing what it meant to be whipped to the black soldiers. Furthermore, most of the soldiers were depicted as runaway slaves, when in reality this was a regiment that was hand picked by Frederick Douglas made up of free African Americans. They only made one soldier seem educated from the North, while purposely making a lot of the others seem dumb. Overall, I thought the 54th’s regiments story was told pretty well, but there were a couple additions to this story that were definitely unnecessary for the makers to add. -Matt S. |
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| | I think that the fictional characters added were obviously inaccurate, but I do not think that they took away from the film as much as it could have. -Kazu Ferris |
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