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 ====== 4 Movie as a Primary Source about the time in which it was made ======
-This movie shows progression towards a more tolerant America, as some of the actors in the movie would have been old enough to participate in the Civil Rights movement.  Both Morgan Freeman and Denzel Washington are old enough to have joined in the Civil Rights movement or at least have memories of it.  What a change 20 years can make. -Christian Trout
+**This movie shows progression towards a more tolerant America, as some of the actors in the movie would have been old enough to participate in the Civil Rights movement.  Both Morgan Freeman and Denzel Washington are old enough to have joined in the Civil Rights movement or at least have memories of it.  What a change 20 years can make.** -Christian Trout
 I agree that this film shows how the United States had become more tolerant. **Having this film accurately portray the will and heart of the African-Americans who fought, while acknowledging that they faced racism from Union soldiers, is a great way to honor and commemorate the actual 54th regiment and what they did in advancing the rights of other African-Americans to fight.** --- //[[nfanning@umw.edu|Fanning Neal R.]] 2016/10/12 19:59//
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 ====== 6 The "So, what?" question ======
-So why make a movie? Well I think it is important in terms of the idea of how the Civil War is taught. To be completely honest, until high school, I was under the impression that the Civil War was mainly white men fighting other white men for the emancipation of slaves. It never actually occurred to me that other people other than white people fought in this war. That came out super racists and I apologize but that is the truth. In many high schools, we are given the white man’s history. The history of victory, not defeat and this part of history clearly shows not only how we interpret history but also how we portray it. Therefore, this movie is needed for people like me, who honestly fall into the trap of a white man’s victorious history.  --- //[[mmcmaken@mail.umw.edu|Mary-Margaret McMaken]] 2016/10/11 18:16//
+So why make a movie? Well I think it is important in terms of the idea of how the Civil War is taught. **To be completely honest, until high school, I was under the impression that the Civil War was mainly white men fighting other white men for the emancipation of slaves. It never actually occurred to me that other people other than white people fought in this war.** That came out super racists and I apologize but that is the truth. **In many high schools, we are given the white man’s history. The history of victory, not defeat and this part of history clearly shows not only how we interpret history but also how we portray it. Therefore, this movie is needed for people like me, who honestly fall into the trap of a white man’s victorious history.**  --- //[[mmcmaken@mail.umw.edu|Mary-Margaret McMaken]] 2016/10/11 18:16//
 Maggie, you are right and shouldn't apologize because that unfortunately is the truth! I experienced the same view of the Civil War through previous education and think that all too frequent lack of accurate education in primary and secondary school gives the film industry a more crucial responsibility to choose accuracy over entertainment value. This theme of responsibility of the films keeps popping up in class discussion, and there must be a reason why!  --- //[[afanghel@umw.edu|Fanghella, Amy E.]] 2016/10/12 12:06//
-We don't get the view of the minority, Its good to get a different view than what is normally taught. Its also good to have a different perceptive of race and how it affected the blacks view of race, especially of the union (South slave owners sending in their slaves for them).The film proves to be a truly uplifting experience and an important history lesson, a valuable reminder that despite what the history books say (or, more precisely, what they do not say), blacks played a critically important role in the North's victory over the South--forever changing the evolution of America. --- //[[nsciadin@umw.edu|Natalie Sciadini]] 2016/10/12 4:44//
+We don't get the view of the minority, Its good to get a different view than what is normally taught. **Its also good to have a different perceptive of race and how it affected the blacks view of race, especially of the union (South slave owners sending in their slaves for them).**The film proves to be a truly uplifting experience and an important history lesson, a valuable reminder that despite what the history books say (or, more precisely, what they do not say), blacks played a critically important role in the North's victory over the South--forever changing the evolution of America. --- //[[nsciadin@umw.edu|Natalie Sciadini]] 2016/10/12 4:44//
-I believe that this is a very important movie about African-American struggle during the Civil War. As the three people above me have mentioned, the usual suspicion of Virginian-schooled kids is that the war was white vs white and the slaves just sat there waiting to be liberated. But they did so much more than that and this movie shows that. Even though that slaves sat and waited might be the usual assumption by people like me, I also would have said something like "yeah, ok that makes sense" if someone told me runaway slaves joined the Union army. But for the time, that idea would have been crazy to many northerners, and this film also shows that which makes it even more important.  --- //[[nfanning@umw.edu|Fanning Neal R.]] 2016/10/12 20:02//
+I believe that this is a very important movie about African-American struggle during the Civil War. **As the three people above me have mentioned, the usual suspicion of Virginian-schooled kids is that the war was white vs white and the slaves just sat there waiting to be liberated.** But they did so much more than that and this movie shows that. Even though that slaves sat and waited might be the usual assumption by people like me, I also would have said something like "yeah, ok that makes sense" if someone told me runaway slaves joined the Union army. But for the time, that idea would have been crazy to many northerners, and this film also shows that which makes it even more important.  --- //[[nfanning@umw.edu|Fanning Neal R.]] 2016/10/12 20:02//
-I think this movie was significant in several ways. One was showing an important part of Civil War era history. Another was having a movie where the heroes don’t exactly prevail, but they show an immense amount of courage. My only problem with the movie is that at the end all of the white soldiers from various units seem willing and proud to serve with African Americans which wasn’t a reality.  --- //[[khaynes3@umw.edu|Haynes, Kelly E.]] 2016/10/12 23:36//
+I think this movie was significant in several ways. One was showing an important part of Civil War era history. **Another was having a movie where the heroes don’t exactly prevail, but they show an immense amount of courage. My only problem with the movie is that at the end all of the white soldiers from various units seem willing and proud to serve with African Americans which wasn’t a reality.**  --- //[[khaynes3@umw.edu|Haynes, Kelly E.]] 2016/10/12 23:36//
-When we watched the Patriot a few weeks ago, I asked what the point was in remaking a story about a war that happened centuries ago. This movie is one of the exceptions. Instead of repeating the story that we already know, this movie talks about a regiment that isn’t common knowledge and knowing about its existence is a vital part of understanding the true story of the Civil War. For so long, the history of the war was white washed, so understanding the complex nature of the war is critical to getting the full picture. Movies have the ability to convey a story that isn’t expressed in high school textbooks.  --- //[[lrainfor@umw.edu|Rainford, Lauren E.]] 2016/10/12 23:36//
+When we watched the Patriot a few weeks ago, I asked what the point was in remaking a story about a war that happened centuries ago. This movie is one of the exceptions. **Instead of repeating the story that we already know, this movie talks about a regiment that isn’t common knowledge and knowing about its existence is a vital part of understanding the true story of the Civil War. For so long, the history of the war was white washed, so understanding the complex nature of the war is critical to getting the full picture. Movies have the ability to convey a story that isn’t expressed in high school textbooks.**  --- //[[lrainfor@umw.edu|Rainford, Lauren E.]] 2016/10/12 23:36//