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| I think Gone With the Wind works as a secondary source because it shows how people in the 1930s wanted to remember the Civil War and Antebellum South era of American history. The movie does get some parts right, especially with showing how much destruction the war caused and how different the South became after the Confederacy lost. But honestly, I think the movie is more useful for understanding the people who made it than the actual Civil War because it romanticises the “Old South” so much. It gives viewers this almost “beautiful” version of the South that leaves out a lot of the uglier parts of its history, so I think it tells us more about how history was being remembered in 1939 than what the past actually looked like. ——Cait Edwards | I think Gone With the Wind works as a secondary source because it shows how people in the 1930s wanted to remember the Civil War and Antebellum South era of American history. The movie does get some parts right, especially with showing how much destruction the war caused and how different the South became after the Confederacy lost. But honestly, I think the movie is more useful for understanding the people who made it than the actual Civil War because it romanticises the “Old South” so much. It gives viewers this almost “beautiful” version of the South that leaves out a lot of the uglier parts of its history, so I think it tells us more about how history was being remembered in 1939 than what the past actually looked like. ——Cait Edwards | ||
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| + | This film is truthful in terms of events and portrayal of social interaction between the wealthy, plantation-owning elite. It is however, quite inaccurate in it's discussion and portrayal of slavery. Enslaved African Americans are presented as loving and loyal to the families that enslaved them even after emancipation. The film pushes a lost cause narrative that is not truthful to the historical happenings that actually took place. -Leah B. | ||
| The film generally sticks to truth with the portrayal of the wealthy white plantation owners, and how they experienced the civil war and reconstruction era. The film really deviates with its portrayal of slavery, and generally ignores the issue as a whole. The reason for the civil war is not really mentioned, it is just a big deal that the south is going to war. The main slave characters never get called slaves, and stick around even after they’re free. While that could have happened, they don’t mention it. Emancipation in general is rarely mentioned, and skirted around whenever possible. Scholarly articles about slaves’ experiences, | The film generally sticks to truth with the portrayal of the wealthy white plantation owners, and how they experienced the civil war and reconstruction era. The film really deviates with its portrayal of slavery, and generally ignores the issue as a whole. The reason for the civil war is not really mentioned, it is just a big deal that the south is going to war. The main slave characters never get called slaves, and stick around even after they’re free. While that could have happened, they don’t mention it. Emancipation in general is rarely mentioned, and skirted around whenever possible. Scholarly articles about slaves’ experiences, | ||
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| While Gone with the Wind includes many historical inaccuracies, | While Gone with the Wind includes many historical inaccuracies, | ||
| + | This film does a good job at depicting the war’s impact on southern society through the evolution of characters like Scarlett and Melanie, who begin as symbols of domesticity and marriage-focused society. When their husbands leave for the front, Scarlett is forced to shed her social status to secure survival at Tara, while Melanie embodies the idealized devotion to the Confederate cause, with both ultimately volunteering their time and energy to helping the wounded. Melanie’s attitude specifically, | ||
| ======Problems with historical accuracy? Errors in fact?====== | ======Problems with historical accuracy? Errors in fact?====== | ||
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| + | My favorite inaccuracy in this film regards a character that has no physical depiction in it, yet who is just as instrumental to its plot as he is in history. Sherman! We get a good sense with the primary source reading by him, his views on warfare. While initially at the war’s beginning he followed the belief of treating Confederate civilians as a misguided people (even returning captured slaves), his view of war hardened as did most generals as they encountered the popular early support for the war effort even among poor, non-slave holding whites. He began to see the war as not being decided by decisive battle, but rather the elimination of the capacity and will of the enemy to continue the fight. This “hard war” however was not “total war,” in my opinion. Sherman’s epoch March to the Sea, while destructive and devastating, | ||
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| + | My largest issue with this film is the way it approaches slavery. Gone With The Wind pushes a lost cause idea that is a product of the time, but uses a minimized, inaccurately written image of slavery that turns African American characters into caricatures. In the film, emancipated slaves showed loyalty to their past enslavers. One formerly enslaved character comes running to save Scarlett immediately, | ||
| There is no doubt Gone With the Wind is a product of its time period; it is intrinsically shown in its overt sugarcoating of the horrors of slavery and perpetuating racist stereotypes, | There is no doubt Gone With the Wind is a product of its time period; it is intrinsically shown in its overt sugarcoating of the horrors of slavery and perpetuating racist stereotypes, | ||
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| In terms of historical inaccuracies in Gone with the win there is of course the elephant in the room, which is the representation of slaves and slavery. Almost every enslaved person in the movie is a stereotype. Mammy is of course, the Mammy archetype. Someone made Scarlett' | In terms of historical inaccuracies in Gone with the win there is of course the elephant in the room, which is the representation of slaves and slavery. Almost every enslaved person in the movie is a stereotype. Mammy is of course, the Mammy archetype. Someone made Scarlett' | ||
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| + | I think one of the biggest historical inaccuracies in Gone With the Wind is not necessarily what the film gets wrong, but what it chooses to leave out. The destruction of Atlanta, the economic hardships, and the struggles of Southern families during and after the Civil War were very real. However, the film tells that history almost entirely from the perspective of wealthy white Southerners, | ||
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| + | The romanticized portrayal of plantation life is particularly troubling when compared to Jacob Stroyer' | ||
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| + | I think the film does a reasonable job portraying the loss experienced by the Southern elite, but it fails to acknowledge that the same events also brought freedom to millions of enslaved people. This makes me wonder whether historical omissions can be just as misleading as factual inaccuracies. After all, a film can accurately portray certain events while still giving audiences a distorted understanding of history. - Todd H. | ||
| ======How does the film’s overall interpretation(s) deviate from scholarly historical sources (as presented in class)? | ======How does the film’s overall interpretation(s) deviate from scholarly historical sources (as presented in class)? | ||
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| This film presents an idyllic version of the South; happy slaves willing to help their masters in any way, gallant men and submissive women, and a prosperous economy for all to live fat and happy. While we do see some violence against enslaved individuals, | This film presents an idyllic version of the South; happy slaves willing to help their masters in any way, gallant men and submissive women, and a prosperous economy for all to live fat and happy. While we do see some violence against enslaved individuals, | ||
| + | I think Gone With the Wind deviates from the historical sources primarily because it presents the Civil War and Reconstruction through the experiences of wealthy white Southerners, | ||
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| + | However, the primary sources we examined tell a very different story. Jacob Stroyer' | ||
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| + | What I find particularly interesting is that the film's depiction of Southern suffering is not entirely inaccurate. The destruction of property, economic hardships, and social upheaval were very real. However, the film presents the collapse of the plantation system almost exclusively as a tragedy, without adequately acknowledging what emancipation meant for millions of enslaved Americans. | ||
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| + | I think this demonstrates how a film can portray actual historical events while still presenting a misleading interpretation of history simply through whose experiences it chooses to emphasize. - Todd H. | ||
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| + | It deviates through slavery. Most films struggle to show the hardships of what slavery truly was or they are afraid to show it through film. It was cruel and heartless; whites didn’t rarely and if at all show humanism towards African Americans. They were treated as objects and the answers to their product/ | ||
| ======How does this movie work as a primary source about the time in which it was made?====== | ======How does this movie work as a primary source about the time in which it was made?====== | ||
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| + | Gone With The Wind works fairly well as a primary source. There were many aspects of the film that were very much of its time, including but not limited to the pervasive gender roles and sexism of the 30s, caricatures of black characters and blatant disregard for racial sensitivity, | ||
| Gone With the Wind was released nearly right smack-dab in the middle of the Jim Crow era, as depicted by the rampant utilization of racist archetypes, such as the aforementioned ‘Mammy’ portrayal and character that appears throughout the film. However, another major event that occurred during this time period, and reflected deeply in Scarlett O’Hara’s own drastic economic instability, | Gone With the Wind was released nearly right smack-dab in the middle of the Jim Crow era, as depicted by the rampant utilization of racist archetypes, such as the aforementioned ‘Mammy’ portrayal and character that appears throughout the film. However, another major event that occurred during this time period, and reflected deeply in Scarlett O’Hara’s own drastic economic instability, | ||
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| + | I think Gone With the Wind works particularly well as a primary source for understanding American society in 1939. The film tells us quite a bit about how Americans remembered the Civil War nearly 75 years after it ended. Rather than confronting the realities of slavery, it romanticizes the Old South and presents plantation life as something worth mourning. This reflects the influence of the Lost Cause narrative, which remained prominent during the Jim Crow era. | ||
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| + | Something else I find interesting is the film's release during the Great Depression. Scarlett' | ||
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| + | I also think the treatment of Hattie McDaniel provides an important historical connection. She portrayed one of the film's most recognizable characters and became the first African American to win an Academy Award, yet she still faced segregation during the film's premiere and the Academy Awards ceremony. | ||
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| + | To me, the film is almost more valuable as a historical source about 1939 than about the Civil War itself. It reveals not only how Americans chose to remember their history, but also how racial attitudes and economic experiences influenced the stories Hollywood told. - Todd H. | ||
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| + | This works as a primary source for 1939 America because it shows us the stories people wanted to believe at that moment, especially white audiences who were living through Jim Crow, the tail end of the Depression, and the rising global anxiety. Its dreamy, sanitized Old South, its loyal enslaved characters, and its romantic framing of the Confederacy aren't reflections of the Civil War; they' | ||
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| + | This movie showed just how wartimes can be brought to the screen. During the production of this film and when it was released it was just the beginning of WWII and people were starting to hear what was happening in Poland and Germany. While it was two different timeframes comparing a film about the Civil War and WWII it reflects the concept of wartime and the struggles that people can go through. -- Shelby-Marie Hawley | ||
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| ======The "So What" Question -- Why should we care about the movie and its version of history? | ======The "So What" Question -- Why should we care about the movie and its version of history? | ||
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| I care about this movie because it's inspiring. Seeing young men and women making sacrifices for their families is hard. This film brought a lot of what I've learned in school to life. Now in our past films for this class I've seen brutality and death, but in Gone with the wind I got to see more of the afteraffects of war. The film displays the list of those lost in battle to the families. This was very eye opening because the families of the fallen had no closure for their loved ones, they had an idea of how they died but there was no actual remembrance of their bravery in battle unless they knew someone who survived. It was cruel to see how a single sheet of paper could make an entire crowd of people cry. In other films they at least have a fellow soldier or commander come to the houses of the fallen to let their families know of their death but not in this one. Another factor of why I care about this film was the abandonment of women and wives. In the film of course Melanie gives birth to her baby but it is with Scarlett with no experience because no doctor has the time to help. It was surreal to see how much many women had to stand up for themselves during the war compared to before it. -- Autumn M. | I care about this movie because it's inspiring. Seeing young men and women making sacrifices for their families is hard. This film brought a lot of what I've learned in school to life. Now in our past films for this class I've seen brutality and death, but in Gone with the wind I got to see more of the afteraffects of war. The film displays the list of those lost in battle to the families. This was very eye opening because the families of the fallen had no closure for their loved ones, they had an idea of how they died but there was no actual remembrance of their bravery in battle unless they knew someone who survived. It was cruel to see how a single sheet of paper could make an entire crowd of people cry. In other films they at least have a fellow soldier or commander come to the houses of the fallen to let their families know of their death but not in this one. Another factor of why I care about this film was the abandonment of women and wives. In the film of course Melanie gives birth to her baby but it is with Scarlett with no experience because no doctor has the time to help. It was surreal to see how much many women had to stand up for themselves during the war compared to before it. -- Autumn M. | ||
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| + | The story I’d like to compare the most with Gone with the Wind is surprisingly Little Women. Both Gone with the Wind and Little Women are definitive film and literary masterpieces centered on the civilian experience immediately surrounding the American Civil War through a classic female “coming of age story” where girls learn to become women (strong women in this case). However, their differences are just as startling as that of their literary authors. Margaret Mitchell was born into a socially prominent, affluent Atlanta family growing with the stories from Confederate veterans and the generational memory of the “Old South” and the trauma of its fall. Lousia May Alcott (author of Little Women) was a born-again transcendentalist, | ||
| This movie is still so present within the culture consciousness of this nation and adjusted for inflation, is still the highest grossing film of all time. This movie is often referred to in conjunction to other hallmarks like Birth of a Nation which are so blatant in their racism. This movie is probably the best representation of the Lost Cause myth and its an important artifact in understanding how some viewed and still view the history of the American Civil War and tried to twist it to fit into their narrative of white superiority. This movie left a massive mark on how many think about the American past, a scar that has taken so long only to partially undo. Many in this nation still believe in this idyllic south, and some want to take us back to that fake past. This movie is crucial in understanding that way of thinking. Along with this, Gone With the Wind produced and proliferated so many popular racist archetypes like the Mammy character that are still seen in films today and have even been plastered on products like maple syrup. – Nora M. | This movie is still so present within the culture consciousness of this nation and adjusted for inflation, is still the highest grossing film of all time. This movie is often referred to in conjunction to other hallmarks like Birth of a Nation which are so blatant in their racism. This movie is probably the best representation of the Lost Cause myth and its an important artifact in understanding how some viewed and still view the history of the American Civil War and tried to twist it to fit into their narrative of white superiority. This movie left a massive mark on how many think about the American past, a scar that has taken so long only to partially undo. Many in this nation still believe in this idyllic south, and some want to take us back to that fake past. This movie is crucial in understanding that way of thinking. Along with this, Gone With the Wind produced and proliferated so many popular racist archetypes like the Mammy character that are still seen in films today and have even been plastered on products like maple syrup. – Nora M. | ||
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| We should care about Gone With the Wind and its version of history because of its portrayal of the pre- and post-Civil War south (in a “lost cause”/ positive light) because this had/ | We should care about Gone With the Wind and its version of history because of its portrayal of the pre- and post-Civil War south (in a “lost cause”/ positive light) because this had/ | ||
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| + | We should care about this movie because it shows how a single, wildly popular story can shape the way people remember history. Its dreamy, sanitized version of the Old South didn't just entertain audiences in 1939, it helped normalize a narrative that downplayed slavery and romanticized the Confederacy, | ||
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| + | This film does an excellent job at romanticizing the antebellum South, presenting plantation life as a refined, stable society while glossing over the inherent brutality of slavery as an institution. It depicts enslaved individuals, | ||
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