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| Colonial America went through many trials as well as wars to get us where we are today. I think what we learned in class follows along pretty well with the film's interpretations. We started off with the seven years war as well as the French and Indian war in the 1750s through the early 1760s. This is likely when Ben first fought battles and learned how to fight. He recalls many times to his son Gabrial in the film about how he murdered Indians and sent their body parts back to their tribes. This gives you the sense of how brutal that war was and why Ben doesn' | Colonial America went through many trials as well as wars to get us where we are today. I think what we learned in class follows along pretty well with the film's interpretations. We started off with the seven years war as well as the French and Indian war in the 1750s through the early 1760s. This is likely when Ben first fought battles and learned how to fight. He recalls many times to his son Gabrial in the film about how he murdered Indians and sent their body parts back to their tribes. This gives you the sense of how brutal that war was and why Ben doesn' | ||
| + | The Patriot showcases the American Revolution in a way that is better read as an interpretation than a source on how the events depicted actually took place. The film uses the American Revolution as a backdrop to a plot based on drama and revenge, making entertainment more important than accuracy. The interaction between white colonists and African Americans specifically is purposefully ignorant of the actual climate of the time. Benjamin Martin is presented as a perfect hero and slavery is wholly ignored, instead the black people who work on his family' | ||
| + | -Leah B. | ||
| ======How does this movie work as a primary source about the time in which it was made?====== | ======How does this movie work as a primary source about the time in which it was made?====== | ||
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| + | In the U.S., the 1990s and the early 2000s were very much a time drenched in nationalistic ideals and patriotism. Hollywood was producing constant films that further impassioned this rhetoric, often having clear and simple good vs bad characters and dramatically heroic narratives. In this film there were also themes of protecting one's home and family in the face of frankly cartoonishly evil violence, which was another common theme of movies during this time. Heavy elements of racial sanitization and fear of broaching controversial topics involving our country' | ||
| The 2000s are rather famously known for their major displays of American Exceptionalism in the lead-up to the Post-9/11 conflict in Afghanistan, | The 2000s are rather famously known for their major displays of American Exceptionalism in the lead-up to the Post-9/11 conflict in Afghanistan, | ||
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| ======The "So What" Question -- Why should we care about the movie and its version of history? | ======The "So What" Question -- Why should we care about the movie and its version of history? | ||
| The Patriot is one of the few movies I would say historical inaccuracy does not matter that much, if you have knowledge of the American Revolution and can recognize the cartoonish characters. From my understanding, | The Patriot is one of the few movies I would say historical inaccuracy does not matter that much, if you have knowledge of the American Revolution and can recognize the cartoonish characters. From my understanding, | ||
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| + | The film is important to view and study as both a primary and secondary source. It has legitimate merit in its historical accuracy, albeit still flawed in its retelling since it is still merely a fictional drama meant for entertainment purposes. It illustrates quite well some of the more brutal aspects involved in the fight for American independence, | ||
| I think the fact that this movie heavily shallows out the history of slavery and racism in South Carolina is a really important discussion that makes this movie important to look at today in 2026. We discussed a bit in class on Tuesday about how this was likely done to maintain the "good guy" image of Benjamin Martin and the overall desire to enforce moral clarity, which was important to American society in the 1990s-2000s. However, we can understand today that that nuance and complexity is necessary to understanding the history of the American South. It also adds to our overall discussion we've been having throughout the course about how, what, and why movie makers sacrifice certain historical details in films and whether or not that's significant enough for us to be ok or not ok with. I think this movie makes us think about manhood or the American version of manhood and how that has changed over time, what kinds of qualities or actions do Americans value in men, and how that's portrayed or carried on to modern audiences. -- Grayson D. | I think the fact that this movie heavily shallows out the history of slavery and racism in South Carolina is a really important discussion that makes this movie important to look at today in 2026. We discussed a bit in class on Tuesday about how this was likely done to maintain the "good guy" image of Benjamin Martin and the overall desire to enforce moral clarity, which was important to American society in the 1990s-2000s. However, we can understand today that that nuance and complexity is necessary to understanding the history of the American South. It also adds to our overall discussion we've been having throughout the course about how, what, and why movie makers sacrifice certain historical details in films and whether or not that's significant enough for us to be ok or not ok with. I think this movie makes us think about manhood or the American version of manhood and how that has changed over time, what kinds of qualities or actions do Americans value in men, and how that's portrayed or carried on to modern audiences. -- Grayson D. | ||
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