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====== I. How does this movie work as a secondary source? What does the movie get right about history? | ====== I. How does this movie work as a secondary source? What does the movie get right about history? | ||
- | As a secondary source I believe this movie did well when compared to last weeks Pocahontas. Due to the nature of it being a Hollywood movie made about a fictional book, we can’t say it’s truly accurate. Probably fall from it, but it does a better job at being closer to the real deal. At least there are no talking trees. | + | As a secondary source I believe this movie did well when compared to last week' |
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- | + | **The film's depiction of the siege of Fort William Henry is surprisingly accurate.** While I did not find any mention of colonial forces desertion, (this is all just from Wikipedia… sorry), the rest of the siege seemed pretty accurate. The British held fort was commanded by Lieutenant Colonel George Monro. It had a small garrison of British soldiers and colonial militia. The Fort was besieged by French General Louis-Joseph de Montcalm. It lasted several days, with French forces digging trenches in order to bring their artillery closer to the fort. In the film we see this happening, and it is related in Monro’s line “The situation is his guns are bigger than mine and he has more of them. We keep our heads down while his troupes dig thirty yards of trench a day. Once those trenches are two hundred yards from the fort and within range, he’ll bring in his fifteen-inch mortars, lob explosive rounds over our walls and burn us to dust.” (0: | |
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- | The film's depiction of the siege of Fort William Henry is surprisingly accurate. While I did not find any mention of colonial forces desertion, (this is all just from Wikipedia… sorry), the rest of the siege seemed pretty accurate. The British held fort was commanded by Lieutenant Colonel George Monro. It had a small garrison of British soldiers and colonial militia. The Fort was besieged by French General Louis-Joseph de Montcalm. It lasted several days, with French forces digging trenches in order to bring their artillery closer to the fort. In the film we see this happening, and it is related in Monro’s line “The situation is his guns are bigger than mine and he has more of them. We keep our heads down while his troupes dig thirty yards of trench a day. Once those trenches are two hundred yards from the fort and within range, he’ll bring in his fifteen-inch mortars, lob explosive rounds over our walls and burn us to dust.” (0: | + | |
This is essentially what happened. As in the film, Monro set messages for help to Brigadier General Daniel Webb for help. Webb at the time was feeling threatened by another French force and deemed it unwise to send a large contingent of his force away to relieve Monro. Webb advised Monro to surrender, his letter was intercepted by the French and presented to Monro after a couple of days of heavy bombardment. Monro surrendered. The only major difference I spotted was that in the movie the Monro’s English forces were compelled to leave America and not engage in anymore fighting on the continent. In actuality they were allowed to keep all their muskets and one ceremonial cannon (but no ammo), and had to swear not to fight for the next 18 months. https:// | This is essentially what happened. As in the film, Monro set messages for help to Brigadier General Daniel Webb for help. Webb at the time was feeling threatened by another French force and deemed it unwise to send a large contingent of his force away to relieve Monro. Webb advised Monro to surrender, his letter was intercepted by the French and presented to Monro after a couple of days of heavy bombardment. Monro surrendered. The only major difference I spotted was that in the movie the Monro’s English forces were compelled to leave America and not engage in anymore fighting on the continent. In actuality they were allowed to keep all their muskets and one ceremonial cannon (but no ammo), and had to swear not to fight for the next 18 months. https:// | ||
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- | As a secondary source, it is okay. There are some accurate parts in the film that would have occurred during this time but it was very dramatized and focused more on the white story then the Native. The movie follows the character Hawkeye who is the adopted son of the Mohawk tribe. Natives used to take captives and adopt the children into their culture and make them their own. Hawkeye talks about how he knows English due to him being sent to a Christian school. As more Europeans came over, more Christian schools opened and it became common for Native Americans to attend them. The fighting strategies the British used in this film were accurate. They would line up and stay in one spot to shoot their enemies. During the French and Indian War, the French had more native allies and that is shown in the film. Shows how much the Natives began to rely on the Europeans for goods. -Sophie Weber | + | As a secondary source, it is okay. There are some accurate parts in the film that would have occurred during this time but it was very dramatized and focused more on the white story then the Native. |
One thing that was historically accurate, and thus allows the movie to somewhat work as a secondary source, was Magua’s wish to kill Colonel Monro’s daughters as revenge for Col. Monro killing his children. According A Captive with Abenakis, it was typical of Native Americans that were mourning the loss of family members to want either French or English captives to be tortured to death as a form of revenge for their lost loved ones. Therefore, Magua seeking revenge by killing English people was historically accurate, however, Native Americans typically respected the women they captured -Teresa Felipe | One thing that was historically accurate, and thus allows the movie to somewhat work as a secondary source, was Magua’s wish to kill Colonel Monro’s daughters as revenge for Col. Monro killing his children. According A Captive with Abenakis, it was typical of Native Americans that were mourning the loss of family members to want either French or English captives to be tortured to death as a form of revenge for their lost loved ones. Therefore, Magua seeking revenge by killing English people was historically accurate, however, Native Americans typically respected the women they captured -Teresa Felipe | ||
- | Something that I noticed immediately when watching this movie was the attitudes of the settlers to the British crown. During the Seven Years’ War, colonists in America saw themselves as British citizens still. They believed themselves to be citizens of England, but just in its colonies. However, the settlers in the film generally view the British with contempt. They do not want to fight in the war for the British and even say that the French are their (the British) enemy, not theirs. Whether this choice was made by the director or James Fenimore Cooper, the author of the original novel, I don’t know. Regardless, I think this choice was made to retroactively carve out an American identity that did not exist at the time the story takes place. It feels almost as if the story at times is setting the stage for the American Revolution, though that is not the main focus of it. Natty Bumpo is supposed to be, in this way, the ideal American: neither settler nor native, but a third, unique identity that is both “civilized” and “wild”. - Maris Tiller | + | Something that I noticed immediately when watching this movie was the attitudes of the settlers to the British crown.** During the Seven Years’ War, colonists in America saw themselves as British citizens still. They believed themselves to be citizens of England, but just in its colonies. However, the settlers in the film generally view the British with contempt. They do not want to fight in the war for the British and even say that the French are their (the British) enemy, not theirs.** Whether this choice was made by the director or James Fenimore Cooper, the author of the original novel, I don’t know. Regardless, I think this choice was made to retroactively carve out an American identity that did not exist at the time the story takes place. It feels almost as if the story at times is setting the stage for the American Revolution, though that is not the main focus of it. Natty Bumpo is supposed to be, in this way, the ideal American: neither settler nor native, but a third, unique identity that is both “civilized” and “wild”. - Maris Tiller |
- | Some aspects of the film that I found to work as a secondary source were the depictions of the colonists and how they acted, especially in their battle strategies. It was quite historically accurate for the time period to line up across from each other and shoot. Whereas you saw the Native Americans that were assisting with the French using less European style tactics, which are more historically accurate for them. The general attitude of the “I am white, so I am better” was also seen throughout the film, which is a sentiment that carries over even to today but is especially true for many of the settlers. -Margaret Jones | + | Some aspects of the film that I found to work as a secondary source were the depictions of the colonists and how they acted, especially in **their battle strategies. It was quite historically accurate for the time period to line up across from each other and shoot. Whereas you saw the Native Americans that were assisting with the French using less European style tactics, which are more historically accurate for them.** The general attitude of the “I am white, so I am better” was also seen throughout the film, which is a sentiment that carries over even to today but is especially true for many of the settlers. -Margaret Jones |
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- | This film is not a terrible secondary source, as it does do a good job with some aspects of history. I think that its best quality is its cinematography and the landscape featured, as this was very accurate for the time. I found this article/ | + | This film is not a terrible secondary source, as it does do a good job with some aspects of history. |
- | As a secondary source, this movie seems to do an okay job. The portrayal of Native Americans seems to be one of the best I can think of in the present day. While Magua was still made out as the villain in the end, the rest of the movie did a decent job at not stereotyping and generalizing natives, which is the absolute least this movie could have done. Although they did make the white man who “became, | + | As a secondary source, this movie seems to do an okay job. The portrayal of Native Americans seems to be one of the best I can think of in the present day. While Magua was still made out as the villain in the end, the rest of the movie did a decent job at not stereotyping and generalizing natives, which is the absolute least this movie could have done. **Although they did make the white man who “became, |
One thing that the Last of the Mohicans gets right is the common distrust, disgust, and hate between the English and the Native Americans. The Native Americans, especially the ' | One thing that the Last of the Mohicans gets right is the common distrust, disgust, and hate between the English and the Native Americans. The Native Americans, especially the ' | ||
- | The view of the colonists seemed accurate as it portrayed them as both loyal to the English crown but also vested in their own interests, since they wanted to both fight on England’s side and still protect their own families. I think the juxtaposition the film created between the posh looking british officers and the rugged colonists was interesting, | + | **The view of the colonists seemed accurate as it portrayed them as both loyal to the English crown but also vested in their own interests, since they wanted to both fight on England’s side and still protect their own families. I think the juxtaposition the film created between the posh looking british officers and the rugged colonists was interesting**, but I did pick up on the fact that the colonists all had clear american accents, and I don’t know how much difference in accents the two groups would have had at that point. One thing I was curious about was the whole plot surrounding Munro not honoring the promise of his superior of letting the colonists leave — would the real Munro have disobeyed a direct order or was this done to further plot so that Hawkeye could be charged with sedition? — Sasha Poletes |
====== II. Problems with historical accuracy? Errors in fact? ====== | ====== II. Problems with historical accuracy? Errors in fact? ====== | ||
- | Considering that the movie is based off a fiction book written by a man who never even saw nor met a native American, they did good. Production was very elegant, and well thought out. It left room for in-depth conversation about the topic. | ||
+ | **Considering that the movie is based off a fiction book written by a man who never even saw nor met a native American, they did good.** Production was very elegant, and well thought out. It left room for in-depth conversation about the topic. | ||
+ | **A more inaccurate portion of the history displayed in the film was its portrayal of the massacre following the Siege of Fort William Henry.** In the film, the massacre is portrayed as a planned assault extremely reminiscent of the Roman ambush at the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest. English forces march in order out of Fort William Henry. They are then surprised in the forest with no forewarning or expectation of attack. The battle is quick, brutal, and enacted with the winking support of French officers. The real massacre, (according to Wikipedia… again I'm sorry), was much more drawn out and probably extremely predictable. While some French officers did turn the other eye, the nature of the massacre could be argued to have been a result of poor communications within the French and Native American force. the native forces allied with the French were of an extremely diverse nature. They spoke a myriad of different languages, many of which were not spoken by a single European on the field. So the question can be raised whether or not the French native allies even knew what was going on and that they were supposed to avoid killing the English all of a sudden. After the surrender, the English forces made camp in the French camp, French allied native forces immediately entered the Fort and killed sick and wounded soldiers that had been left behind. Seeing the native bloodlust, both English and French commanders decided it might be smart to move the English out during the night, but native forces caught on to this and the departure was moved to dawn. Throughout the rest of the day English forces continue to be harassed by native warriors, with weapons, clothing, and people being snatched away. As the last British soldiers left the French encampment, the fight began as native warriors attacked the back of the line. Order collapsed and people ran. Estimates as to how many people died range wildly from 200 to 1500. https:// | ||
- | + | This movie really does not seem accurate to what would have occurred during the Seven Years War. Native Americans considered women to have value and strength and regarded them as such. I’m not sure if this was due to Maugua having to interact with white women or he was starting to take on European ideas of women, but he regarded them as lower than the men and like they needed the men to support them. **Many of the native Americans remained neutral during the war but this movie portrays it like every native person chose a side and was fighting. Though the native people relied on the British and French, many did remain neutral from the fighting.** Every time the native Americans move, they have to make sounds which do not seem accurate. Another factor is when the native Americans run. It is the same as in Pocahontas where they are more skipping/ | |
- | A more inaccurate portion of the history displayed in the film was its portrayal of the massacre following the Siege of Fort William Henry. In the film, the massacre is portrayed as a planned assault extremely reminiscent of the Roman ambush at the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest. English forces march in order out of Fort William Henry. They are then surprised in the forest with no forewarning or expectation of attack. The battle is quick, brutal, and enacted with the winking support of French officers. The real massacre, (according to Wikipedia… again I'm sorry), was much more drawn out and probably extremely predictable. While some French officers did turn the other eye, the nature of the massacre could be argued to have been a result of poor communications within the French and Native American force. the native forces allied with the French were of an extremely diverse nature. They spoke a myriad of different languages, many of which were not spoken by a single European on the field. So the question can be raised whether or not the French native allies even knew what was going on and that they were supposed to avoid killing the English all of a sudden. After the surrender, the English forces made camp in the French camp, French allied native forces immediately entered the Fort and killed sick and wounded soldiers that had been left behind. Seeing the native bloodlust, both English and French commanders decided it might be smart to move the English out during the night, but native forces caught on to this and the departure was moved to dawn. Throughout the rest of the day English forces continue to be harassed by native warriors, with weapons, clothing, and people being snatched away. As the last British soldiers left the French encampment, the fight began as native warriors attacked the back of the line. Order collapsed and people ran. Estimates as to how many people died range wildly from 200 to 1500. https:// | + | |
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- | This movie really does not seem accurate to what would have occurred during the Seven Years War. Native Americans considered women to have value and strength and regarded them as such. I’m not sure if this was due to Maugua having to interact with white women or he was starting to take on European ideas of women, but he regarded them as lower than the men and like they needed the men to support them. Many of the native Americans remained neutral during the war but this movie portrays it like every native person chose a side and was fighting. Though the native people relied on the British and French, many did remain neutral from the fighting. Every time the native Americans move, they have to make sounds which do not seem accurate. Another factor is when the native Americans run. It is the same as in Pocahontas where they are more skipping/ | + | |
One thing that the movie got wrong was the massacre while the British were retreating from Fort William Henry. First of all, according to the Penn Museum website, the British were under a French armed guard during their retreat to Fort Edward; in the movie there was no such guard. Furthermore, | One thing that the movie got wrong was the massacre while the British were retreating from Fort William Henry. First of all, according to the Penn Museum website, the British were under a French armed guard during their retreat to Fort Edward; in the movie there was no such guard. Furthermore, | ||
- | One thing that the readings addressed was the common event of Native Americans taking women and children and generally treating them well to be " | + | One thing that the readings addressed was the common event of Native Americans taking women and children and generally treating them well to be " |
- | This is going to be nitpicky, but it annoyed me. Cora and her sister have clothes from the wrong decade. Their silhouettes are 1760's silhouettes, | + | **This is going to be nitpicky, but it annoyed me. Cora and her sister have clothes from the wrong decade. Their silhouettes are 1760's silhouettes, |
- | The film does do well in some regard to historical accuracy, but it also does take some liberties with the story for fictional purposes. In the massacre following the British surrender at Fort Henry, the way that scene played out is not accurate. The rear of the British surrender march was the ones attacked, while the others had their clothes stolen amongst other things (Siege of Fort William Henry - Wikipedia). In the film, the entirety of the march is attacked. French officers, including Montcalm, tried to stop the attack; however, in the film they are not seen at all. Another inaccuracy is the death of Munro. Munro did not die in the massacre, but months later in Albany (George Monro (British Army officer) - Wikipedia). Earlier in the film, the attitudes of the colonists do not match with the historical record. In the film, they resent the Crown almost, not wanting to fight it. However, the way that British officers like Munro and Heyward view the colonists does line up with the historical record (as mentioned on class on Tuesday). Munro in the film does not even want to hear what the colonists have to say because he does not trust them as much as a British officer. - Taylor Coleman | + | The film does do well in some regard to historical accuracy, but it also does take some liberties with the story for fictional purposes. In the massacre following the British surrender at Fort Henry, the way that scene played out is not accurate. The rear of the British surrender march was the ones attacked, while the others had their clothes stolen amongst other things (Siege of Fort William Henry - Wikipedia). In the film, the entirety of the march is attacked. French officers, including Montcalm, tried to stop the attack; however, in the film they are not seen at all.** Another inaccuracy is the death of Munro. Munro did not die in the massacre, but months later in Albany** (George Monro (British Army officer) - Wikipedia). Earlier in the film, the attitudes of the colonists do not match with the historical record. In the film, they resent the Crown almost, not wanting to fight it. However, the way that British officers like Munro and Heyward view the colonists does line up with the historical record (as mentioned on class on Tuesday). Munro in the film does not even want to hear what the colonists have to say because he does not trust them as much as a British officer. - Taylor Coleman |
====== III. How does the film’s overall interpretation(s) deviate from scholarly historical sources? ====== | ====== III. How does the film’s overall interpretation(s) deviate from scholarly historical sources? ====== | ||
- | It seems like the film writers may have used scholarly sources for facts and information, | + | Considering that the movie itself |
- | Aside from the obvious unnecessary and historically inaccurate romance plot of the movie, the main character Hawkeye/ | ||
- | The film’s interpretation of the French and Indian War seemed skewed. The number of natives fighting in the movie made it seem as if this was largely their fight with the French and British just directing them around. However, this was certainly not the case. There is proof that natives had planned to stay out of the war and that many, even after the war had encroached on their homes, only fought when necessary to protect themselves. So if this movie had truly been going for accuracy, there should have been a larger presence of the French and the British in regards to military actions. Also, this war caused about 5,000 deaths, but a very large number of the deaths in this movie were natives, which does not match up with this number. The largest amount of deaths should be attributed to the French and British. https:// | + | |
+ | I**t seems like the film writers may have used scholarly sources for facts and information, | ||
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The Last of the Mohicans is a work of fiction - aside from the siege of Fort William Henry - and it proves this with the personality and character of Cora Munro, one of Colonel Munro’s daughters. Cora Munro in this film is portrayed as a strong, independent female willing to stand up to her male counterparts. This is shown in her interaction with her father: | The Last of the Mohicans is a work of fiction - aside from the siege of Fort William Henry - and it proves this with the personality and character of Cora Munro, one of Colonel Munro’s daughters. Cora Munro in this film is portrayed as a strong, independent female willing to stand up to her male counterparts. This is shown in her interaction with her father: | ||
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//Cora Munro//: “Yes I do, I know exactly what I'm saying! And if it is sedition, then I am guilty of sedition too.” | //Cora Munro//: “Yes I do, I know exactly what I'm saying! And if it is sedition, then I am guilty of sedition too.” | ||
- | This form of independence is shown in women in more modern times but not in 18th century women, who are typically more domestic and dependent. https:// | + | **This form of independence is shown in women in more modern times but not in 18th century women, who are typically more domestic and dependent.** https:// |
- | Something I picked up on was the blended nature of settlements depicted especially at the beginning of the film. I know we touched on in class the fact that Native Americans had different options open to them on how they could adapt to colonists moving in, but the film seemed to portray the relationship between natives and colonists as some sort of peaceful coexistence where they all got along more or less, and it only got violent because of conflicts between the British and French (as in, had the British and French not been fighting over land, the colonists and Natives would never fight with each other but rather live in harmony forever). Though I’m sure in some areas there were colonists and Natives who lived well together, I find it hard to believe that there were lots of settlements where this happened, since most colonists still held racist, stereotyped beliefs of Natives, and were actively pushing them out of their lands. Because the movie shifts the conflict to between the British and French, and then additionally has Magua as a main villain, I think it glosses over in places the fact that the colonists caused so many issues for the Native Americans. Magua expresses the ways that the British wronged him, but is also the villain, so it doesn’t come across as a genuine criticism of the British colonists but rather an isolated incident that Magua is not justified to be upset about. — Sasha Poletes | + | Something I picked up on was the blended nature of settlements depicted especially at the beginning of the film. I know we touched on in class the fact that Native Americans had different options open to them on how they could adapt to colonists moving in, but the film seemed to portray the relationship between natives and colonists as some sort of peaceful coexistence where they all got along more or less, and it only got violent because of conflicts between the British and French (as in, had the British and French not been fighting over land, the colonists and Natives would never fight with each other but rather live in harmony forever).** Though I’m sure in some areas there were colonists and Natives who lived well together, I find it hard to believe that there were lots of settlements where this happened, since most colonists still held racist, stereotyped beliefs of Natives, and were actively pushing them out of their lands. Because the movie shifts the conflict to between the British and French, and then additionally has Magua as a main villain, I think it glosses over in places the fact that the colonists caused so many issues for the Native Americans.** **Magua expresses the ways that the British wronged him, but is also the villain, so it doesn’t come across as a genuine criticism of the British colonists but rather an isolated incident that Magua is not justified to be upset abou**t. — Sasha Poletes |
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====== IV. How does this movie work as a primary source about the time period in which it was made or the filmmakers? ====== | ====== IV. How does this movie work as a primary source about the time period in which it was made or the filmmakers? ====== | ||
- | As a primary source for the time it was made, this movie displays many stereotypes about Native Americans, especially with the makeup, costuming, and behavioral choices - I noticed that a good amount of Native Americans, especially the Hurons, were always shirtless to display tattoos, while Nathaniel was always fully clothed and depicted more as a white man with more dignity, despite the fact that his character was raised as a Mohican since he was 2 or 3. Obviously there was some research done and some Native actors hired, but not enough to avoid playing into the stereotypes. This probably makes sense as the book that it was based on basically created the stereotype, but the hunting scenes and the seemingly arbitrary switch between English and Native languages in conversations between the Mohicans felt a little off and clearly displayed the stereotypes that the filmmakers felt would sell the best. -- Jane Michael | + | **As a primary source for the time it was made, this movie displays many stereotypes about Native Americans, especially with the makeup, costuming, and behavioral choices - I noticed that a good amount of Native Americans, especially the Hurons, were always shirtless to display tattoos, while Nathaniel was always fully clothed and depicted more as a white man with more dignity, despite the fact that his character was raised as a Mohican since he was 2 or 3.** **Obviously there was some research done and some Native actors hired, but not enough to avoid playing into the stereotypes. This probably makes sense as the book that it was based on basically created the stereotype, but the hunting scenes and the seemingly arbitrary switch between English and Native languages in conversations between the Mohicans felt a little off and clearly displayed the stereotypes that the filmmakers felt would sell the best**. -- Jane Michael |
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- | It’s hard to view the film itself as a primary source since it is an adaptation of a book. Likely there were changes made from the original text, but I presume that similar themes are in both works. The fact that Cooper’s novel is still treasured and adapted for the screen as recently as the 1990s is a testament to how we still view the history of this country. Particularly, | + | |
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- | This movie works well as a primary source about the time it was made, as it displays very basic stereotypes about Native Americans. One that I picked up on early and that continued throughout was the hostility/ | + | |
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- | This film would be a solid primary source about the time it was made, as it still contains the stereotypical and offensive tropes of Native Americans. In 1992, the leap to making content accurate and non-stereotypical had not happened, and these unrealistic portrayals of minorities was still common. If someone was to write about the films of the 90’s and their stereotypes, | + | |
- | On Burke's note, I agree that this movie has a brutal portrayal of Native Americans. | + | **//It’s hard to view the film itself as a primary source since it is an adaptation |
- | ====== V. The "So, what?" question ====== | + | **This movie works well as a primary source about the time it was made, as it displays very basic stereotypes about Native Americans**. One that I picked up on early and that continued throughout was the hostility/ |
+ | **This film would be a solid primary source about the time it was made, as it still contains the stereotypical and offensive tropes of Native Americans. In 1992, the leap to making content accurate and non-stereotypical had not happened, and these unrealistic portrayals of minorities was still common. If someone was to write about the films of the 90’s and their stereotypes, | ||
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- | All in all I think it was a much better | + | |
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+ | This movie shows us a lot about the time period it was made. Some of the best examples of that are the romanticism shown throughout the movie and the stereotypes displayed. As Jane mentioned, it is clear to see the different treatment and portrayal of the white and Native American characters. The Native American actors are mostly unclothed which some view as living a more savage lifestyle that goes hand-in-hand with the violent and “evil” nature they portray. The romantic interests also show what was romanticized at the time and who was viewed as beautiful and worthy of love. -Annika | ||
+ | The movie works as a secondary source in providing an idea of what the world was like in America during this time in regards to the French, English, and Indians having disagreements , battles, etc. One thing that was specifically accurate was that the French had more allies than the British. Regardless, the film was based off of a fictional book and therefore, many of the characters were fictional and can not be taken as historically accurate. | ||
- | Ultimately, my thoughts on the film, and the protagonist Nathanial | + | The first historical inaccuracy that I immediately thought about was that some of the colonists were already against Britain |
- | I also do not know enough about the racial setting of the 1990s to speak with any authority but I did also find it interesting that, like Pocahontas, this movie featured inter-racial relationships. I feel like it was more of a deliberate choice in Pocahontas rather | + | This film deviates from scholarly sources because |
- | The death of Uncas felt like the same 'bury your ..." phenomenon even in modern films where the people of color and gay characters are always the first to be killed off in a tragedy filled story. It made absolutely no sense, historically and just in the regards of common sense, that after a single interaction with a random white woman he was willing to die to rescue her, especially as one of the last representatives of a dying culture - dying most likely because of HER people. It's not particularly important in the big picture, but with the emphasis that a lot of the stereotypes put on Native Americans and their relations and loyalty to their tribes and traditions, his death felt disrespectful as the 7 Years War WAS marked by many Native Tribes, especially those on the English side, arguing that it was not their fight. If the Mohicans, including Uncas, did not want to fight their battles, why was he so willing to follow his adopted white brother to save those random white women whom he knew would place him in the middle of the war? -- Jane Michael | ||
- | Similar to our discussion about Pocahontas, | + | I believe that the film works as a primary source |
- | --Olivia Foster | + | |
- | This film as a secondary source | + | Overall, |
- | The Last of the Mohicans, admittedly, | + | This link was helpful |
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