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====== I. How does this movie work as a secondary source? What does the movie get right about history? | ====== I. How does this movie work as a secondary source? What does the movie get right about history? | ||
- | I think //A Long Walk Home// works well as a secondary source. It needs to be judged differently from most of the other films that we have watched this semester. Rather than focusing on specific characters of a story, highlighting historical figures while throwing in fictional ones, what this movie does is use fictional characters to portray a much larger story, that of the Montgomery Bus Boycott. The film does a great job in displaying the story. The fact that I was really uncomfortable watching the movie means it portrayed the story well, not sugarcoating that part of American history. To me, it actually succeeds where other films we have watched failed, in that it demonstrates that a historical account can be shown well without the need of focusing on the figures involved in the account. In other words, the use of fictional individuals does not take anything away from the story being told. In doing so, it helps the viewer better understand what life was like for African Americans during the Civil Rights Movement and it makes it more personal for the viewer. -- Jordan Petty | + | I think //A Long Walk Home// works well as a secondary source. It needs to be judged differently from most of the other films that we have watched this semester. |
- | The film seems to focus more on its fictional characters in a historically realistic setting, however it certainly does capture the time period and events well enough to be considered a somewhat accurate secondary source. The film gets the dates right and how it affected the community on a much more personal scale, and rather than focusing on the politics or grand scheme of things, it does a good job telling a story about how this historical event affected individual people on a personal level. The film does get very realistic and uncomfortable at times, and is hard to watch for squeamish people, which is admirable as it does not censor or sugar-coat realistic historical problems. These includes depictions of racism and racial violence, even showing racist violence against a child in one scene. Overall I think this film serves as a good introduction to the historical topic, and is a well told historical fiction. --AJ DeGeorge | + | The film seems to focus more on its fictional characters in a historically realistic setting, however it certainly does capture the time period and events well enough to be considered a somewhat accurate secondary source. The film gets the dates right and how it affected the community on a much more personal scale, and rather than focusing on the politics or grand scheme of things, |
- | Although A Long Walk Home follows fictional characters, it seems to accurately portray the time period and events in which it is set in. This film provides an immersive experience in life in Montgomery, Alabama in the 1950s and brings a deeply impactful portrayal of the Montgomery bus boycott that helps viewers to better understand the individual experience in that tenuous period. This film portrays many of the racist views and stereotypes perpetuated at the time, and racism on all scales from Miriam' | + | Although A Long Walk Home follows fictional characters, it seems to accurately portray the time period and events in which it is set in. This film provides an immersive experience in life in Montgomery, Alabama in the 1950s and brings a deeply impactful portrayal of the Montgomery bus boycott that helps viewers to better understand the individual experience in that tenuous period. This film portrays many of the racist views and stereotypes perpetuated at the time, and racism on all scales from Miriam' |
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//Long Walk Home// works very well as a secondary source. This movie accurately portrays the time period and the events that the story is based on. Although the majority of the characters in the movie are fictional, the use of combining these fictional characters along with real historical figures allow for the creation of a much larger story that contributes to the events of the Montgomery Bus Boycott. The film portrays a storyline that helps viewers understand what an individual' | //Long Walk Home// works very well as a secondary source. This movie accurately portrays the time period and the events that the story is based on. Although the majority of the characters in the movie are fictional, the use of combining these fictional characters along with real historical figures allow for the creation of a much larger story that contributes to the events of the Montgomery Bus Boycott. The film portrays a storyline that helps viewers understand what an individual' | ||
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//The Long Walk Home// is a great film to reference for context of the civil rights movement. The film depicts fictional characters around a fictional story, but the background of the film is very accurate. This is a great depiction of the experiences during the Montgomery Bus Boycott. I really liked getting to know all of the characters as if they would have existed in real life. Miriam' | //The Long Walk Home// is a great film to reference for context of the civil rights movement. The film depicts fictional characters around a fictional story, but the background of the film is very accurate. This is a great depiction of the experiences during the Montgomery Bus Boycott. I really liked getting to know all of the characters as if they would have existed in real life. Miriam' | ||
- | I think //The Long Walk Home// works pretty well as a secondary source for the Montgomery Bus Boycott as a whole. This film's approach to telling this story means that we can't really use the film as a secondary source about the people involved in the bus boycott, but more about the general history of it. I think the film does a really great job of portraying many of the emotions people felt during this time, the various perspectives, | + | I think //The Long Walk Home// works pretty well as a secondary source for the Montgomery Bus Boycott as a whole. This film's approach to telling this story means that we can't really use the film as a secondary source about the people involved in the bus boycott, but more about the general history of it. I think the film does a really great job of portraying many of the emotions people felt during this time, the various perspectives, |
I think the film did an accurate job of showing the historical setting and also one thing we talked about in the lecture that I thought the movie did well was showing how important Black women were to the bus boycott. I think we saw a little bit of this when Odessa' | I think the film did an accurate job of showing the historical setting and also one thing we talked about in the lecture that I thought the movie did well was showing how important Black women were to the bus boycott. I think we saw a little bit of this when Odessa' | ||
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+ | I think the film works well as a secondary source for the time period because of its fictional characters. Because it wasn’t based on real people or a specific event, the focus of the film doesn’t have to focus on the minute details. The film accurately portrays the time period along with emotions and interpersonal dynamics occurring then. The relationship between Miriam and Odessa plus their own family dynamics are representative of the culture during this time period. The setting and the culture is fairly accurate and shows an harsh, but honest, depictions of the hardships Black people went through during this time period. The audience is able to understand the story of the Montgomery bus boycott and just how pervasive its impact was on daily life. -Purnaja Podduturi | ||
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+ | I think that //The Long Walk Home// works well for a secondary source even if it does have fictional characters. I think that the film captures the racial tension and discrimination of the era well. The film also does a good job of portraying the emotion of women like Odessa, or Rosa Parks, and the pain and frustration they felt. I believe that this film would be a good introduction to the Montgomery Bus Boycott and the Civil Rights Movement. -Mariah Morton | ||
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+ | While //The Long Walk Home// is based on mostly fictional characters centered around the Montgomery Bus Boycott I would argue that this film is a good secondary source for the events that happened around this event in history, This film shows the relationship that African American Maids had close relationships with the children in the families they worked with. Also, shows the relationship a white female housewife/ | ||
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+ | **Something this film also portrays is how white people were willing to talk rudely about African Americans directly in front of them. This occurs early on in the film at the Cocktail and party even during the Christmas meal scene.** During this scene, the white family talks about how the desegregation of buses would be the stupidest thing to happen to the city. They also went on to talk about how if they got their way he would be upset because they would be running around saying they won. One family member at the lunch went on to say that the desegregation of the buses was communism. At both of these events, the white people said things that implied that they are lazy and more specifically | ||
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+ | In addition to the bus boycott and the way in which African Americans have treated this film serves as a secondary source for marriage in the 1950s. Meaning that this film shows the relationship between a white man and a woman. As a secondary source for marriage in the 1950s. -Megan Williams | ||
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+ | **I thought it was interesting that the film told the story of major events (the arrest of Parks, the bombing of the King house, etc.) from the prospective of outside observers just hearing about the event.** I think the film thereby successfully provides one of the things historic films can bring to the table: helping viewers imagine or think about various past perspectives and experiences, | ||
====== II. Problems with historical accuracy? Errors in fact? ====== | ====== II. Problems with historical accuracy? Errors in fact? ====== | ||
- | The film is ultimately about fictional people, so the first problem with historical accuracy lies in the fact that the characters are made up. However the events in the story are dated correctly, their depictions are also very well done. This film is probably one of the more accurate ones we have seen as it correctly shows black employment, the bus boycott and its effects. The film seems to be focused more around the fictional story than the history around it, however this does not necessarily hurt the film. The film does not seem to have any massive errors that contradict with primary sources, as the largest historical error is simply the characters, who definitely represent what real people could gave existed at the time, but these particular individuals did not. -- AJ DeGeorge | + | The film is ultimately about fictional people, so the first problem with historical accuracy lies in the fact that the characters are made up. However the events in the story are dated correctly, their depictions are also very well done. **This film is probably one of the more accurate ones we have seen as it correctly shows black employment, the bus boycott and its effects.** **The film seems to be focused more around the fictional story than the history around it,** however this does not necessarily hurt the film. The film does not seem to have any massive errors that contradict with primary sources, as the largest historical error is simply the characters, who definitely represent what real people could gave existed at the time, but these particular individuals did not. -- AJ DeGeorge |
- | As AJ stated, the film is extremely accurate in describing the circumstances and conditions of two women who are representative of those features in this time period and location. The choice of making one of the larger characters in the movie, Miriam Thompson, an indirect supporter of the early days of the Civil rights movement is interesting, | + | As AJ stated, the film is extremely accurate in describing the circumstances and conditions of two women who are representative of those features in this time period and location. The choice of making one of the larger characters in the movie, |
- | One of the things I noticed was the bus scene. Semela Cotter was riding the bus and the three boys came to her and harassed her and the bus driver stopped the bus and yelled at them to get off and told them they were trash. From what we heard in the lecture, usually, bus drivers were not very sympathetic to Black riders, everything else about the scene seemed to fit in line with other events though. -- Helen Dhue | + | **One of the things I noticed was the bus scene. Semela Cotter was riding the bus and the three boys came to her and harassed her and the bus driver stopped the bus and yelled at them to get off and told them they were trash. From what we heard in the lecture, usually, bus drivers were not very sympathetic to Black riders, everything else about the scene seemed to fit in line with other events though.** -- Helen Dhue |
====== III. How does the film’s overall interpretation(s) deviate from scholarly historical sources? ====== | ====== III. How does the film’s overall interpretation(s) deviate from scholarly historical sources? ====== | ||
- | This is not so much a deviation, more like an observation. Two of our primary sources talk about how African Americans in the service where accosted for refusing to give up their seats. Thomas Williams was part of the Air Force while Sarah Keys was a member of the Women' | + | This is not so much a deviation, more like an observation. Two of our primary sources talk about how African Americans in the service where accosted for refusing to give up their seats. Thomas Williams was part of the Air Force while Sarah Keys was a member of the Women' |
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====== IV. How does this movie work as a primary source about the time period in which it was made or the filmmakers? ====== | ====== IV. How does this movie work as a primary source about the time period in which it was made or the filmmakers? ====== | ||
- | I think the film works well primarily in terms of its casting. The leads are portrayed by Whoopi Goldberg (//The Color Purple// (1985),// | + | **I think the film works well primarily in terms of its casting. The leads are portrayed by Whoopi Goldberg (//The Color Purple// (1985),// |
- | I think that //The Long Walk Home// would be a great primary source about the 90s and filmmakers. If we compare this to other historical films during the 90s, we see the accuracy of depicting the times in which African Americans struggled most. Also, the actresses in this film are great at portraying the characters' | + | I think that //The Long Walk Home// would be a great primary source about the 90s and filmmakers. If we compare this to other historical films during the 90s, we see the accuracy of depicting the times in which African Americans struggled most. **Also, the actresses in this film are great at portraying the characters' |
- | I think this film is relevant in the 90s as a primary source. There were still civil rights legislations being passed in the 90s when this movie was released, making this movie about an uncomfortable topic even more significant and uncomfortable. The casting choices were also important, using Whoopi Godlberg and Sissy Spacek, two very big names in the time, in the main roles of a pseudo independent film was a big deal and brought a lot of attention, once again to a topic and a story not generally willingly talked about.-- Kimberly Sak | + | I think this film is relevant in the 90s as a primary source. |
- | //Long Walk Home// can be relevant as a primary source for the 1990s. Throughout the 1980s and into the 1990s, there were still Civil Rights legislation being passed such as non-discrimination laws for educational institutions and strengthening existing civil rights laws that were previously in place. These pieces of legislation were passed after the movie was made. The hardships that African Americans faced at the start of the Civil Rights Movement in the 1950s were still being faced and dealt with going into the 1990s. They were dealing with achieving non-discrimination rights for over 40 years. The casting choices that were made for Whoopi Goldberg as Odessa Carter and Sissy Spacek as Miriam Thompson were also very important for the movie' | + | //Long Walk Home// can be relevant as a primary source for the 1990s. |
- | To me //The Long Walk Home// felt like a slightly less problematic version of// The Help// with more historical context. Which was a little bit surprising because it came out about 20 years before //The Help//. I felt like it was better than the help because the story felt more revolved around Odessa versus //The Help// which was much more revolved around Emma Stone' | + | **To me //The Long Walk Home// felt like a slightly less problematic version of// The Help// with more historical context.** Which was a little bit surprising because it came out about 20 years before //The Help//. I felt like it was better than the help because the story felt more revolved around Odessa versus //The Help// which was much more revolved around Emma Stone' |
Based on this YouTube interview of Sissy Spacek, I think this film is a primary source for the year it came out. At the beginning of the video, the interview talks about how the year in which this film came out had seen only a few serious roles played by women. This film goes against that statement because this film has two leading ladies, Whoopi Goldberg and Sissy Spacek. Additionally, | Based on this YouTube interview of Sissy Spacek, I think this film is a primary source for the year it came out. At the beginning of the video, the interview talks about how the year in which this film came out had seen only a few serious roles played by women. This film goes against that statement because this film has two leading ladies, Whoopi Goldberg and Sissy Spacek. Additionally, | ||
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- | This movie is important because it does an exceptional job in showing the struggles during the Civil Rights movement, specifically during the Montgomery Bus Boycott. It's unique usage of fictional individuals helps to make the story more intimate and personal without having the need to focus on the actual figures of the story. I think this is what makes the movie stand out. Other movies we have watched this semester, like // | + | I think that this movie works as a primary source about the time in the sense that the filmmakers were trying to show this piece of history that was honestly quite recent and to some **not a part of history just a part of their life.** **As a nation we have a tendency to think that things happened longer ago than they did. To put this film into perspective it was released in 1990, and Rosa Parks passed away in 2005.** Granted she lived a longer life than most but the point stands. This was a movie about the past and it was likely watched by people who lived through it. The reviews of this movie are also quite telling. One review of the movie from the New York Times states, "it avoids shrillness and keeps its potential for preachiness more or less at bay". She essentially said you got your point across without getting in my face about it and annoying me with peoples troubles of the past. Which I think says something. **Of course its not as if race relations in the 1990s were the best. The Rodney King riots would occur two years after the release of this movie.** Link: https:// |
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+ | This movie is important because it does an exceptional job in showing the struggles during the Civil Rights movement, specifically during the Montgomery Bus Boycott. | ||
The film is important in telling a story about the Civil Rights movement in a way that helps the viewer understand the story better. It serves to complement what other sources say about the subject, how other sources tell the story. -- Jordan Petty | The film is important in telling a story about the Civil Rights movement in a way that helps the viewer understand the story better. It serves to complement what other sources say about the subject, how other sources tell the story. -- Jordan Petty | ||
- | While this film is set in the 1950s, it would be foolish to say that this kind of racism is not still seen in the United States to this day, as if especially in the last few years, we haven' | + | **While this film is set in the 1950s, it would be foolish to say that this kind of racism is not still seen in the United States to this day, as if especially in the last few years, we haven' |
I think this movie is extremely significant to watch in context of civil rights discussion. Not only does the film have big names in it, especially for the time it was made, but it also claims historical accuracy without trying to conform to a specific story. It is a fictional story, set in a real time period with real events happening around it to provide the context needed to make the story what it is. I think that the film does a good job of showing the violence and hatred that some felt while acknowledging that some felt differently and had doubts about the way things were but were often afraid or unable to speak up, a narrative not often taught because of the stereotypical Black versus White debate in most civil rights era stories. The film does a good job of showing the Bus Boycott from a more outside perspective than those that were right on the front lines, and shows the inner conflict that many had to go through when trying to keep their jobs and participate in the boycott, as well as the inner conflict of the white families of keeping their employees despite their displeasure about the boycott and the effect it had on their jobs. -- Kimberly Sak | I think this movie is extremely significant to watch in context of civil rights discussion. Not only does the film have big names in it, especially for the time it was made, but it also claims historical accuracy without trying to conform to a specific story. It is a fictional story, set in a real time period with real events happening around it to provide the context needed to make the story what it is. I think that the film does a good job of showing the violence and hatred that some felt while acknowledging that some felt differently and had doubts about the way things were but were often afraid or unable to speak up, a narrative not often taught because of the stereotypical Black versus White debate in most civil rights era stories. The film does a good job of showing the Bus Boycott from a more outside perspective than those that were right on the front lines, and shows the inner conflict that many had to go through when trying to keep their jobs and participate in the boycott, as well as the inner conflict of the white families of keeping their employees despite their displeasure about the boycott and the effect it had on their jobs. -- Kimberly Sak | ||
- | I believe //The Long Walk Home// could be used as an excellent example of the portrayal of poverty, racism, segregation, | + | I believe //The Long Walk Home// could be used as an excellent example of the portrayal of poverty, racism, segregation, |
+ | This film is important because it portrays a very important point in American history. ** When a studio decides to make a historical film, they often choose to make it about war, adventure, or something else action-packed. | ||
Both this movie and The Best Years of Our Lives are unique in that they show just normal people in these situations. Instead of being disappointed in how horrible film makers have butchered a historical figure, we get to see how every day people handled being put in these positions. It helps the audience realize that it wasn't just famous Americans who were heroic, but regular Americans were heroic within their own lives. —Madison Roberts | Both this movie and The Best Years of Our Lives are unique in that they show just normal people in these situations. Instead of being disappointed in how horrible film makers have butchered a historical figure, we get to see how every day people handled being put in these positions. It helps the audience realize that it wasn't just famous Americans who were heroic, but regular Americans were heroic within their own lives. —Madison Roberts | ||
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This film is a very valuable tool to examine and display what life was like for black and white women during this time period. It highlights the different relationships each had with their families, the different social structures and expectations for each, and it does a really good job of giving a sense of the “average” American life during the bus boycotts. The plight of African Americans during the Civil Rights movement is incredibly important, especially of African American women as they were the group that experienced the most changes. The intricacy of Mrs. Thompson and Mrs. Cotter’s relationship opens an often ignored perspective when reading about this topic. While the two were not considered friends in their own eyes, they had formed a bond that they were both willing to risk a lot on. This movie is incredibly powerful and serves as a great resource to learn about different perspectives during the bus boycotts and the early Civil Rights Movement. -Morgan Gilbert | This film is a very valuable tool to examine and display what life was like for black and white women during this time period. It highlights the different relationships each had with their families, the different social structures and expectations for each, and it does a really good job of giving a sense of the “average” American life during the bus boycotts. The plight of African Americans during the Civil Rights movement is incredibly important, especially of African American women as they were the group that experienced the most changes. The intricacy of Mrs. Thompson and Mrs. Cotter’s relationship opens an often ignored perspective when reading about this topic. While the two were not considered friends in their own eyes, they had formed a bond that they were both willing to risk a lot on. This movie is incredibly powerful and serves as a great resource to learn about different perspectives during the bus boycotts and the early Civil Rights Movement. -Morgan Gilbert | ||
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+ | **I think this film is important in the sense that it give us a basic look into life during the Civil Rights Movement. In school we don't exactly focus on any of that. We are taught a few names to remember like Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King Jr and that's about it. We rarely take an in depth look at the lives of the average worker during these times.** I think it would be benefical if more people saw this film just to get a better understanding of the time and the civil rights movement.- Dan Dilks | ||
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+ | **I think this film is important because it shows the daily lives of people during the civil rights movement and just how they were affected by the boycotts and protests. Often times historical movies tend to focus on major significant events, but A Long Walk Home focused on regular people with the major event as the background.** This makes the movie much more personal as these are just regular people from this time period trying to go about their lives while fighting for equality. It helps viewers understand and empathize with the plight of minority groups throughout history since the characters aren’t some exceptional, | ||
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+ | The Long Walk Home does a good job of conveying a historic moment from two different stand points and does so realistically. Neither Odessa nor Miriam are presented as fantastic heroes of the past but rather as regular people whose lives happen to lead them to the boycott. | ||
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+ | I believe that this film is impactful in explaining the beginnings of the Civil Rights movement, racism, and injustices faced by many people in the United States; based solely on the color of their skin. I think that this film points to the bigger picture of African Americans fight to gain equality and a voice in a country that was so bent on denying them those rights. While it may have some details that are fictionalized, | ||
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