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 Al Stephenson when making the unsecured loan to the former Navy SEABEE for a 40-acre farm, makes a reference to the 1944 Bretton Woods conference that created the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD) to oversee global reconstruction and stabilize the exchange rates and financial flows after the Second World War.  The discussion centers around the promises made by the Selective Service Act / GI Bill that guaranteed underwriting loans to returning servicemen. – Andrew Mullins Al Stephenson when making the unsecured loan to the former Navy SEABEE for a 40-acre farm, makes a reference to the 1944 Bretton Woods conference that created the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD) to oversee global reconstruction and stabilize the exchange rates and financial flows after the Second World War.  The discussion centers around the promises made by the Selective Service Act / GI Bill that guaranteed underwriting loans to returning servicemen. – Andrew Mullins
  
-**One thing the movie got right was the feeling of these 15 million men returning to the job market.** When Fred came back to the drug store, the other workers in the store were talking about how if he wanted his job, he would probably get it because of his service in the war and that “nobody’s jobs are safe with all of these servicemen.” This was a common worry of those who had taken the jobs the soldiers had left behind. Fred’s experience when looking for a job was difficult as well due to the saturated job market. When the manager talked to Fred he told him that since the business changed hands, he was not required to give Fred his old job back. Fred’s experience in the job market was overall a very real problem in the time of this film. -- Carolyn Stough+*One thing the movie got right was the feeling of these 15 million men returning to the job market.** When Fred came back to the drug store, the other workers in the store were talking about how if he wanted his job, he would probably get it because of his service in the war and that “nobody’s jobs are safe with all of these servicemen.” This was a common worry of those who had taken the jobs the soldiers had left behind. Fred’s experience when looking for a job was difficult as well due to the saturated job market. When the manager talked to Fred he told him that since the business changed hands, he was not required to give Fred his old job back. Fred’s experience in the job market was overall a very real problem in the time of this film. -- Carolyn Stough*
  
 To add to what Carolyn said. I also thought it was a great depiction from the managers perspective. He admitted he wasn't required to give his job back. Fred said he didn't want it, he wanted a better one. The manager pointed out that just because you're a bomber doesn't mean you can work in accounting or whatever it was. The movie did a great job at showing both perspective. To add to what Carolyn said. I also thought it was a great depiction from the managers perspective. He admitted he wasn't required to give his job back. Fred said he didn't want it, he wanted a better one. The manager pointed out that just because you're a bomber doesn't mean you can work in accounting or whatever it was. The movie did a great job at showing both perspective.
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-This film contradicts common understandings about the post-war period in the United States. It was not as idyllic as we often think. The GI Bill was a positive thing, but it did not fix all of the soldiers' problems. This was a time of great uncertainty as the country underwent big changes and soldiers had to find jobs and readjust to civilian life. -Maddie Shiflett +This film contradicts common understandings about the post-war period in the United States. It was not as idyllic as we often think. The GI Bill was a positive thing, but it did not fix all of the soldiers' problems. **This was a time of great uncertainty as the country underwent big changes and soldiers had to find jobs and readjust to civilian life.** -Maddie Shiflett 
  
-The scene toward the end with Homer and Wilma was the most powerful, where Homer admits how utterly helpless he is once his 'hooks' are removed. Not only did the veterans have to come to terms with their visible and invisible wounds, society and their loved ones had to as well. The movie depicts the World War 2 veteran but also represents the same issues of patriotism, camaraderie, and difficulties readjusting that today's veterans go through as well. --Andrew Mullins+The scene toward the end with Homer and Wilma was the most powerful, where Homer admits how utterly helpless he is once his 'hooks' are removed. Not only did the veterans have to come to terms with their visible and invisible wounds, society and their loved ones had to as well. **The movie depicts the World War 2 veteran but also represents the same issues of patriotism, camaraderie, and difficulties readjusting that today's veterans go through as well.** --Andrew Mullins
  
-Unlike Gone with the Wind, this film does not seek to glorif war or the causes which led to the fighting. The film does not have any battle scenes and yet is able to show the horrors of war and the very serious affects that it had on all those involved. It shows that the America and the American people were not the same after the war. -- Grace Corkran +Unlike Gone with the Wind, **this film does not seek to glorif war or the causes which led to the fighting. The film does not have any battle scenes and yet is able to show the horrors of war and the very serious affects that it had on all those involved.** It shows that the America and the American people were not the same after the war. -- Grace Corkran 
  
-The movie is one of the most grounded in reality that we have seen. By relying on interesting characters instead of an interesting plot its better at telling the story the of WWII veterans coming home in a way that's relatable. Though the characters are not real, it seemed like real veterans like those characters probably did exist in 1946 and the movie did a good job of embodying them. -Kyle Moore+The movie is one of the most grounded in reality that we have seen. **By relying on interesting characters instead of an interesting plot its better at telling the story the of WWII veterans coming home in a way that's relatable.** Though the characters are not real, it seemed like real veterans like those characters probably did exist in 1946 and the movie did a good job of embodying them. -Kyle Moore
  
-As we discussed in class, The Best Years of Our Lives did very well at the Oscars. I read that the movie was one of the top grossing films of the decade so I looked to see how well it did compared to other popular films in America. I looked at a site that adjusted the grossing value with inflation and found that the movie still made the top 100 films (#85) which is right under Rocky. And in the 40’s alone the movie was the 7th top grossing film It is incredible to me that William Whyler (the Director) and Samuel Goldwyn (the producer) were able to illustrate a moment in time that the audience was currently living through, and apparently get it right. It’s incredible to me because through all of the experiences of the war, the movie apparently was able to at least, for the most part, approach sensitive topics and present them accurately. Perhaps the main qualm is the semi-optimistic ending, but that is the feeling that the movie wanted the audience to leave with I assume. Despite all of the despair and chaos that war brought in battle and on the home front before and after 1945, their lives moved on. –Lake+As we discussed in class, The Best Years of Our Lives did very well at the Oscars. I read that the movie was one of the top grossing films of the decade so I looked to see how well it did compared to other popular films in America. I looked at a site that adjusted the grossing value with inflation and found that the movie still made the top 100 films (#85) which is right under Rocky. And in the 40’s alone the movie was the 7th top grossing film It is incredible to me that William Whyler (the Director) and Samuel Goldwyn (the producer) were able to illustrate a moment in time that the audience was currently living through, and apparently get it right. It’s incredible to me because through all of the experiences of the war, the movie apparently was able to at least, for the most part, approach sensitive topics and present them accurately. Perhaps the main qualm is the semi-optimistic ending, but that is the feeling that the movie wanted the audience to leave with I assume. **Despite all of the despair and chaos that war brought in battle and on the home front before and after 1945, their lives moved on.** –Lake
  
-This movie shows the change in how we see veterans coming home from war, disabilities, and PTSD. Movies tended to glorify the war story and veterans with depictions of easy lives after the war where they win the girl or live a happy life with their families. This movie really flipped the coin especially in a time where people needed to see that their lived experience was valid and they really were not the only ones going through it. I think it would be interesting to look more into how the movie inspired other movies directly after the time it was made and then the lasting impact into war movies today. -- Ellora Larsen+This movie shows the change in how we see veterans coming home from war, disabilities, and PTSD. Movies tended to glorify the war story and veterans with depictions of easy lives after the war where they win the girl or live a happy life with their families. **This movie really flipped the coin especially in a time where people needed to see that their lived experience was valid and they really were not the only ones going through it.** I think it would be interesting to look more into how the movie inspired other movies directly after the time it was made and then the lasting impact into war movies today. -- Ellora Larsen
  
-Harold Russell sold his second Oscar to pay his wife’s medical bills in 1992. He was only paid $10,000 for his role in the movie and did not receive and residual income afterwards. For someone who was so adored by audiences, following this movie, it seems like Russell was forgotten. He did continue to work in veterans affairs and advocate for their rights but the money he earned from that may not have been enough. Russell’s story is very symbolic of what happened to a lot of veterans after the WWII and other wars throughout the 20th century. While the government did do better than they had following past wars to attend to veteran’s needs, there were still many forgotten servicemen who struggled to make ends meet after paying such as heavy price.  –Lake Wiley+Harold Russell sold his second Oscar to pay his wife’s medical bills in 1992. He was only paid $10,000 for his role in the movie and did not receive and residual income afterwards. For someone who was so adored by audiences, following this movie, it seems like Russell was forgotten. He did continue to work in veterans affairs and advocate for their rights but the money he earned from that may not have been enough. **Russell’s story is very symbolic of what happened to a lot of veterans after the WWII and other wars throughout the 20th century. While the government did do better than they had following past wars to attend to veteran’s needs, there were still many forgotten servicemen who struggled to make ends meet after paying such as heavy price.**  –Lake Wiley
 https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1992-08-07-9203110034-story.html  https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1992-08-07-9203110034-story.html 
  
-This movie explores the difficult, traumatic adjustments like unemployment, adultery, and alcoholism that three returning veteran servicemen experienced in the aftermath of World War II. It's like in class when we talked about how there is a manual to make any man into a soldier, but there's no manual, well at the time there wasn't, to make a soldier into a civilian again. This movie talks about the concept that men have the best times of their lives during service, not when they get home. When they get home from war they have to face the realities of the things that happened to them and the aftermath of restarting an everyday life. -Amiti Colson+**This movie explores the difficult, traumatic adjustments like unemployment, adultery, and alcoholism that three returning veteran servicemen experienced in the aftermath of World War II. It's like in class when we talked about how there is a manual to make any man into a soldier, but there's no manual, well at the time there wasn't, to make a soldier into a civilian again. This movie talks about the concept that men have the best times of their lives during service, not when they get home. When they get home from war they have to face the realities of the things that happened to them and the aftermath of restarting an everyday life.** -Amiti Colson
  
-Most depictions of war focus on the actual battles and the fighting. This movie shows some of the forgotten effects that war can have on people, even after all the fighting is over. Americans had lived through World War II and now wanted a film that would depict what they were experiencing in the aftermath. I think it’s also one of the most accurate movies we have watched so far. - Sam Hartz+Most depictions of war focus on the actual battles and the fighting. This movie shows some of the forgotten effects that war can have on people, even after all the fighting is over. **Americans had lived through World War II and now wanted a film that would depict what they were experiencing in the aftermath**. I think it’s also one of the most accurate movies we have watched so far. - Sam Hartz
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