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325:questions:week_5_questions_comments-325_17 [2017/02/16 13:27] – [James O’Connell – 1911] jmcclurken325:questions:week_5_questions_comments-325_17 [2017/02/16 21:01] (current) – [Prof. Frank T. Carlton – 1914] mcgowan
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 I really enjoy reading this articular. Virginia Penny was the eldest of five children, the only female. She was raised in the Presbyterian Church and participated in Louisville literary circles. Penny attended the Female Seminary in Steubenville, Ohio, for two years and graduated in 1845. She taught there and also held teaching positions in Illinois and the public schools of Louisville. She served as principal of the Female Department at Van Rensselaer Academy in Missouri. Daryl Murray  I really enjoy reading this articular. Virginia Penny was the eldest of five children, the only female. She was raised in the Presbyterian Church and participated in Louisville literary circles. Penny attended the Female Seminary in Steubenville, Ohio, for two years and graduated in 1845. She taught there and also held teaching positions in Illinois and the public schools of Louisville. She served as principal of the Female Department at Van Rensselaer Academy in Missouri. Daryl Murray 
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 +I had a few questions that this reading answered. The first question was whether the industrial revolution was when women began to experience a wage gap. I was also curious about the roles of workers in more high end factory production jobs like watches and stylized metalworking like etching. this article answered my questions and showed that women were paid less at this time, but I don't think that this was when the wage gap started. In regards to my question on more detailed jobs, that question was answered fully, but it gave rise to another. Were children common workers to have in watch factories and artisan shops due to their small nature? they could be very useful in finding lost components and detailed work in the creation of items with delicate inner workings. -Thomas Lanier 
  
 I like how this article addressed how female workers were treated compared to their male co-workers in the factories. Virginia Penny argued that women were very much devalued when it came to working with the men in the factories. The assumption from the factor employers was that they “employ female labor, where we can, as being cheaper; but **we find women do not reach the posts where a high degree of skill is needed”** (152). Women were desired for simple and delicate tasks rather than more complex and heavy-weight tasks in the  factory. Men were wanted more for the complex tasks because “of their being naturally more dexterous with their fingers, and therefore being found to require less training”(152). Its quite unfortunate  that women were not treated as equals during these times and that the only way they were given work in the factory was through feminine tasks. **If I was a woman working during this time period,  I think I would be seriously offended by the judgements society put on women to bare and deal with on a daily basis.** - Rachel Kosmacki  I like how this article addressed how female workers were treated compared to their male co-workers in the factories. Virginia Penny argued that women were very much devalued when it came to working with the men in the factories. The assumption from the factor employers was that they “employ female labor, where we can, as being cheaper; but **we find women do not reach the posts where a high degree of skill is needed”** (152). Women were desired for simple and delicate tasks rather than more complex and heavy-weight tasks in the  factory. Men were wanted more for the complex tasks because “of their being naturally more dexterous with their fingers, and therefore being found to require less training”(152). Its quite unfortunate  that women were not treated as equals during these times and that the only way they were given work in the factory was through feminine tasks. **If I was a woman working during this time period,  I think I would be seriously offended by the judgements society put on women to bare and deal with on a daily basis.** - Rachel Kosmacki 
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 As technology and inventions boomed in Europe and the United states so did the sales of “cheap man made consumer goods” to African and Asian countries. With the sales of these items, Europe and later America was able to colonize these countries due to the industrialization of their military and their ability to produce goods on a massive scale. By having these good African and Asian countries were seen as invaluable to Europe and America, for they no longer needed them. The tools and inventions that Africa and Asia had were not comparable to those of Europe and America, making them have little to nothing to offer them. **The material achievements of Europe and America made them superior to that of Africa and Asia. Though “skin color, fashions in or lack of clothing” were still important there was a shift in judgment. It was more valuable to Europeans and Americans to judge one by their “cranial capacity, estimates of railway milage, and the capacity for work, discipline, and marking time.” These became the “criteria” in which they judged other cultures.**  --- //[[abrooks6@umw.edu|Brooks Anna R.]] 2017/02/15 19:46// As technology and inventions boomed in Europe and the United states so did the sales of “cheap man made consumer goods” to African and Asian countries. With the sales of these items, Europe and later America was able to colonize these countries due to the industrialization of their military and their ability to produce goods on a massive scale. By having these good African and Asian countries were seen as invaluable to Europe and America, for they no longer needed them. The tools and inventions that Africa and Asia had were not comparable to those of Europe and America, making them have little to nothing to offer them. **The material achievements of Europe and America made them superior to that of Africa and Asia. Though “skin color, fashions in or lack of clothing” were still important there was a shift in judgment. It was more valuable to Europeans and Americans to judge one by their “cranial capacity, estimates of railway milage, and the capacity for work, discipline, and marking time.” These became the “criteria” in which they judged other cultures.**  --- //[[abrooks6@umw.edu|Brooks Anna R.]] 2017/02/15 19:46//
  
-**This idea of race superiority as a result of technology advancements coincidentally ties in perfectly with what I have been learning in my Business Communication class this week. In BComm we have been discussing the difficulty that sometimes presents itself in communicating to someone of a different culture. Either they might interpret things differently or they have different greeting customs or so on and so forth, but if we do not think about that in when viewing how they respond to us, the responses could come off rude or ignorant.** Similarly here, the Europeans view themselves as superior because they are finding faster ways to transport things, but the essay said that in Africa they weren’t as pressed for time and would rather go around a tree than cut it down for a faster route. It shows the importance of knowing cultural differences when you want to implement your ideas onto someone else.--Kelsey Dean+**This idea of race superiority as a result of technology advancements coincidentally ties in perfectly with what I have been learning in my Business Communication class this week. In BComm we have been discussing the difficulty that sometimes presents itself in communicating to someone of a different culture. Either they might interpret things differently or they have different greeting customs or so on and so forth, but if we do not think about that when viewing how they respond to us, the responses could come off rude or ignorant.** Similarly here, the Europeans view themselves as superior because they are finding faster ways to transport things, but the essay said that in Africa they weren’t as pressed for time and would rather go around a tree than cut it down for a faster route. It shows the importance of knowing cultural differences when you want to implement your ideas onto someone else.--Kelsey Dean
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 ==== 1913 Watertown arsenal’s striking workers’ petition to end Taylorism ==== ==== 1913 Watertown arsenal’s striking workers’ petition to end Taylorism ====
    
-Workers, in the face of industrialized, "scientific" methods of increasing productivity, earned little more than stressful loads of work to complete before the end of their day at the expense of their paycheck (Smith and Clancey 273). Having an intensely long and detailed to-do list for each assignment made working at a reasonable pace impossible, and Taylorism didn't do much more than just threaten the workers' pay as opposed to increasing it. This letter is a good example of how industrialization hit workers hard, making them move faster and become more disconnected to their work. After all, if every piece of instruction is written out for any given day, then someone who can read can theoretically pick up the job. From the worker's perspective, this level of streamlining factory work is devastating to job security and health.  --- //[[lmccuist@umw.edu|Lindsey McCuistion]] 2017/02/15 20:42//+**Workers, in the face of industrialized, "scientific" methods of increasing productivity, earned little more than stressful loads of work to complete before the end of their day at the expense of their paycheck** (Smith and Clancey 273). Having an intensely long and detailed to-do list for each assignment made working at a reasonable pace impossible, and Taylorism didn't do much more than just threaten the workers' pay as opposed to increasing it. This letter is a good example of how industrialization hit workers hard, making them move faster and become more disconnected to their work. After all, if every piece of instruction is written out for any given day, then someone who can read can theoretically pick up the job. **From the worker's perspective, this level of streamlining factory work is devastating to job security and health.**  --- //[[lmccuist@umw.edu|Lindsey McCuistion]] 2017/02/15 20:42//
  
-This excerpt is reflective of the shortcomings of scientific management theory. My impression after reading this petition is that employers treated their laborers as if they were robots or animals. The petition mentions laborers feeling "humiliated" by devices like the stop watch (282). The petition also mentions how the Taylor system had fostered distrust between laborers and their supervisors (283). If employers promote a system with promises of high wages (282), if those promises are not delivered upon, naturally human laborers will express their discontent. Several of the passages in this reading selection emphasize the importance of optimizing efficiency in the early 20th century. However, based on this passage, scientific management theory does not seem to have done enough to account for the human element of labor. -- Yousef Nasser+**This excerpt is reflective of the shortcomings of scientific management theory**. My impression after reading this petition is that employers treated their laborers as if they were robots or animals. The petition mentions laborers feeling "humiliated" by devices like the stop watch (282). The petition also mentions how the Taylor system had fostered distrust between laborers and their supervisors (283). If employers promote a system with promises of high wages (282), if those promises are not delivered upon, naturally human laborers will express their discontent. Several of the passages in this reading selection emphasize the importance of optimizing efficiency in the early 20th century. However, based on this passage, **scientific management theory does not seem to have done enough to account for the human element of labor.** -- Yousef Nasser
  
 ==== 1939 textbook on scientific management ====  ==== 1939 textbook on scientific management ==== 
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 ==== 1930's tale of “Highpockets” in Chicago ====  ==== 1930's tale of “Highpockets” in Chicago ==== 
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 +Written by Nelson Algren, Highpockets is a short story written with the intention to bring attention to the newly industrialized America. Centered around a factory worker in Chicago, Highpockets is the dream factory worker: he dedicates all of his time and efforts to his company. He went above and beyond to make sure the company was processing and putting out as much as they could on his end. This short story reminds me of those about Horatio Alger, meant to inspire people but also force them to reconsider the changes society is undergoing. Highpockets is the ideal, work hard (sell your soul to the factory) and your bosses will take notice and just maybe you'll get promoted. - Danielle Howard
  
 ==== Prof. Frank T. Carlton – 1914 ====  ==== Prof. Frank T. Carlton – 1914 ==== 
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 +As Prof. Carlton's article laid out, I wanted to highlight his statement on workers' interest in shorter work days due to scientific and technological advances. Workers were willing to embrace new technologies in exchange for companies meeting their demand of less hours. This presented a few options to companies, including "less workers, more hours" or "more workers, less hours" (Smith and Clancey 288). This debate on labor persists in today's businesses as companies tend to have an ebb and flow in the amount of workers they have throughout the year, typically adding more workers around the holidays, which decreases the amount of money earned per worker.  --- //[[kmcgowan@umw.edu|McGowan Khayla J.]] 2017/02/16 15:00//
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